CNN (Clinton News Network) is concerend and sad about rapists sentences

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CNN criticized for Steubenville verdict coverage

CNN's coverage of the Steubenville, Ohio, rape verdict involving a pair of high-school football players is being criticized for its focus on the rapists rather than the 16-year-old victim.

"I've never experienced anything like it," CNN correspondent Poppy Harlow said live outside the juvenile court in Steubenville. "It was incredibly emotional—incredibly difficult even for an outsider like me to watch what happened as these two young men that had such promising futures, star football players, very good students, literally watched as they believe their life fell apart."
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redrumloa said:
CNN criticized for Steubenville verdict coverage
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That's all just symptomatic of the general hero worship. If you are good at sports or from a wealthy family or people like your music then you SHOULD be allowed to rob, rape and pillage and punishing you for it is unfair. When the bankers rape you and take away all you've got then it's unfair on them if the government tells them they can't give themselves bonuses any more.
 
some situations in life yield no winners... this is one of them... sad deal all around...
 
robert l. bentham said:
some situations in life yield no winners... this is one of them... sad deal all around...
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Not really, these rapists are going to prison and will be registered as sex offenders when they get out. While the girl cannot be un-raped, at least this is a win for the justice system. I don't think rapists going to prison is sad.
 
redrumloa said:
Not really, these rapists are going to prison and will be registered as sex offenders when they get out. While the girl cannot be un-raped, at least this is a win for the justice system. I don't think rapists going to prison is sad.
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well i tend to lean towards fluffys line of thought on hero worship rape clubs.... and when the "rapist animals" are children themselves caught up in that culture, i see victims all around...
 
The girl also testified that she had come to realize that Mr. Mays — who maintained that he had taken care of her while she was drunk and that their encounter had been consensual and did not involve penetration — had done far more.
“This is the most pointless thing,” Mr. Mays said in one text message to the girl. “I’m going to get in trouble for something I should be getting thanked for taking care of you.” But the girl made clear that she was not having any more of it, telling Mr. Mays in another exchange: “It’s on YouTube. I’m not stupid. Stop texting me.”

The judge barred testimony about previous instances of drunken/sexual conduct by the girl. The victim's female friends testified to some extent for the defence and presumably would have told much more about the victim's prior conduct if the judge had allowed testimony.

The leaked video is pretty incriminating:
http://www.youtube.com/verify_contr...zwcY&feature=player_embedded&bpctr=1363569972

"wang in her butt hole"
"she is so raped her p-ssy is as dry as the sun."
 
redrumloa said:
Not really, I think they should have been tried as adults. At least they were punished and will be registered as sex offenders, which they are.
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so... at least as far as you're concerned; only some justice, was actually done that day... is that a fair assessment of what you're saying?
 
redrumloa said:
I'd say the sentence was lacking, yes.
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well that's certainly honest, and fair... i'm also curious... you say they should have been tried as adults. if they had been they would be serving out their respective sentences in an adult prison, a place where the likelihood of themselves being raped is actually pretty high, and you'd still be okay with that? again just curious, everybody has their own unique sense of justice i'm finding as i get older...
 
robert l. bentham said:
a place where the likelihood of themselves being raped is actually pretty high, and you'd still be okay with that? again just curious, everybody has their own unique sense of justice i'm finding as i get older...
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Which answer do you want? The answer from the gut or the thought out answer? The answer from the gut is who cares if a rapist gets raped, let him see what it is like.
 
My preference is that there be a more reasonable system - graduated penalties, lighter sentences for non-violent offenses, lighter sentences for first offenses, something with more judicial discretion, something with more consideration. One of the problems with harsh sentencing is that it discourages people from bringing charges or juries from finding guilt. If you only get a few charges with even fewer convictions it gives the message that you are more likely to get away with things and that society condones those things. The principle applies to bankers too. If the sentences are seen as too severe then there is a reluctance to bring the charges. Tough on crime means going easy on most crime.
 
well.. personally... i think both of these young men should have received about five years to think about what they did to that poor young lady. disgusting and shameful behaviour. unfortunately we only hold minors until a certain age in juvenile detention. i think that should change. i also can't help but lay some of the blame for this on the "rape culture" that exists n this country, and i'm curious if some other people shouldn't be charged with complicity... whoever allowed that party should be charged with supplying alcohol to minors, and i mean a charge for every minor. i'd even be willing to consider that the charges for leaving them alone with that alcohol and a vacant house without adult supervision went so far as to "facilitate" the rape that occurred. i also think that the kids who have been tormenting her for having come forward should be charged with criminal menacing and intimidation of a witness. and those people should spend a minimum of six months each in their respective jails. i wouldn't stop there either... see i'm a dick when i wanna be... the football program at that school should be suspended (and by suspended i mean no team at all, not that they get to practice and just not play) for a minimum of five years, and other athletic programs should be looked at to see if they too, are abetting the "rape culture"... and if they are.. then out they go too... i would take all of their funding and put it into a victims fund...

As a sportswriter, there is one part of the Steubenville High School rape trial that has kept rattling in my brain long after the defendants were found guilty. It was a text message sent by one of the now-convicted rapists, team quarterback Trent Mays. Mays had texted a friend that he wasn’t worried about the possibility of rape charges because his football coach, local legend Reno Saccoccia, “took care of it.” In another text, Mays said of Coach Reno, “Like, he was joking about it so I’m not worried.”

http://rantagainsttherandom.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/so-youre-tired-of-hearing-about-rape-culture/

Reno Saccoccia is, if these allegations are true, guilty of a criminal conspiracy. and he should at the very least get 5 years himself.


Deadspin editor Barry Petchesky has a theory, and it’s that, much like Trent Mays and Ma’lik Richmond, “local legend” Saccoccia believed that his status as a local football celebrity put him above the law:
Reno Saccoccia is a local legend, in the way that 30-year coaches of football powerhouses in economically depressed Ohio Valley towns tend to be legends. He’s in the Ohio Coaches Hall of Fame. He’s won three state titles. When Saccoccia won his 300th game last year, a sellout crowd of more than 10,000 people packed Harding Stadium—christened “Reno Field” in 2007—and chanted “Reno, Reno, Reno” as he left the field.
He breakfasts regularly with the sheriff. His sister-in-law works in the county’s juvenile court, where he is licensed as a mediator. He “molds young boys into men.”​
But text messages seized from Mays’ cellphone indicate that Saccoccia had seen the video in which another student “joked” that “Trent and Ma’lik raped someone” as soon as it was released.
The day after the incident, Mays texted a friend: “I got Reno. He took care of it and shit ain’t gonna happen, even if they did take it to court. Like he was joking about it so I’m not worried,” according to an agent with the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation, who testified in the rape case.
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/18/meet_reno_saccoccia_steubenvilles_head_football_coach/
but he hasn't even been fired yet...:(
the investigation is ongoing but if they let this piece of shit and his sheriff buddy walk on this nothing will change...
on a more uplifting note... the victim has been offered money (it's what americans do when they feel like they must do something but don't know what, or are afraid to stand up), and guess what? she wants you to give it to someone else instead...
Hey, Rape Apologists: This is What REAL Class Looks Like

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com...pologists-this-is-what-real-class-looks-like/

while i'm no fan of passing new laws to replace what should be a standard response by any human, i think it's time we reevaluate our "good samaritan" laws to at least include compulsory reporting of violent crimes, since we as a society obviously haven't evolved yet...

if my son would have been involved in something like this he would've been begging law enforcement to come get him within ten minutes of me finding this out... (this comment is rated at only 30% bluster)





 
if my son would have been involved in something like this he would've been begging law enforcement to come get him within ten minutes of me finding this out
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main reason I never became a criminal:

my grandmother would have killed me :D
and my mother wouldn't be far behind

at quite an early age I understood I was NEVER to do ANYthing to disgrace the family name
 
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