Worst Drought in 1,000 Years Could Begin in Eight Years

[robert l. bentham]

Beginning in just eight years, we could see permanent climate conditions across the North American Southwest that are comparable to the worst megadrought in 1,000 years.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/14655-worse-drought-in-1000-years-could-begin-in-eight-years

 

[cecilia]

let's encourage all the teabaggers to move there

 

[redrumloa]

You do know that Whyzzat will be around in 2021, don't you?

I doubt this will come true but regardless, fresh water could indeed be an issue for different reasons. It is beyond me why states like Florida do not start building desalinization plants

Water and food gives government complete control over people. If these are being rationed by government, gov has 100% power.

 

[metalman]

Robustness and uncertainties in the new CMIP5 climate model projections

There is, despite better process understanding, little evidence from CMIP5 that our ability to constrain the large-scale climate feedbacks has improved significantly.

Climate Astrology

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

You do know that Whyzzat will be around in 2021, don't you?

Yes, but for how much longer? Maybe the gods of unix were right and time will end at 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, 19 January 2038.

I doubt this will come true but regardless, fresh water could indeed be an issue for different reasons. It is beyond me why states like Florida do not start building desalinization plants

Water and food gives government complete control over people. If these are being rationed by government, gov has 100% power.

Water and food give agribusiness (and maybe Bechtel in the future) complete power over you. Either the government will build water desalination and distribution systems for the benefit of the people OR the government will give big companies the sole right to do that and then use their enforcement powers to make sure no-one competes with these companies and no-one tries to do things for themselves. Guess which one is capitalism. Guess which one is more likely in a country that prosecutes farmers as thieves when their crops are polluted by someone else's GMOs.

 

[metalman]

Beginning in just eight years, we could see permanent climate conditions across the North American Southwest that are comparable to the worst megadrought in 1,000 years.

A new climate model predicts an increase in snowfall for the Earth’s polar regions and highest altitudes as carbon dioxide levels rise over the next century.

“This finding clashes with other models which predicted declines in snowfall for these high-altitude regions.”

Couldn't mean the climate models are garbage in >> garbage out, no ....

The only possible scientific explanation for this must be that Global warming climate models produce contradictory results because C02 increases the number of tachyons which distorts the laws of quantum physics and unravels the fabric of the space-time continuum.

So 97% of climate scientists reached a consensus based on the previous climate models, that have now been determined to be wrong?

 

[redrumloa]

So 97% of climate scientists reached a consensus based on the previous climate models, that have now been determined to be wrong?

But, but.. The I thought the "science" was settled with no more debate??

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

But, but.. The I thought the "science" was settled with no more debate??

You're thinking of religion. Science keeps on moving, refining itself to more closely approach reality. The new model has higher resolution than the old models and accounts for more inputs. It also better matches reality. We could not have computed the new model previously because machines were not powerful enough to run them.
The new model more accurately predicts precipitation patterns but that doesn't make the old science "wrong" nor the new. Einstein's gravity better describes reality than Newton's but Newton's is still a useful approximation. It's not like the new model fundamentally contradicts the old.

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[metalman]

Science keeps on moving, refining itself to more closely approach reality. The new model has higher resolution than the old models and accounts for more inputs. It also better matches reality.

Reality!

Tucson, AZ Feb 21, 2013

"worst megadrought in 1,000 years due to lack of snowmelt"

ROFL!!!

Paradise, AZ, set a record of 6.3 inches snowfall, beating the old record of 2" set in 1896. Paradise, AZ is in south Arizona, just 40 miles from the Mexican border.

Possibly these climate astrologers need to stick their heads out the window once in a while, their models may someday be as scientifically useful as studying the canals on Mars

 

[robert l. bentham]

actually... i posted this because the real story isn't that the midwest mega drought is coming in 8 yrs... it's pretty much here now... and yeah... saying this after 18 inches of snow seems ridiculous, but if we got another 20 inches wed still still be down from needed and typical winter amounts... looking out the window only tells you the weather right now...

 

[metalman]

actually... i posted this because the real story isn't that the midwest mega drought is coming in 8 yrs... it's pretty much here now... and yeah... saying this after 18 inches of snow seems ridiculous, but if we got another 20 inches wed still still be down from needed and typical winter amounts... looking out the window only tells you the weather right now...

Midwest drought's are weather cycles, match the el nino, la nina pacific circulation cycles

So yes, its in the drought cycle now, in 8 years you'll be in the flooding cycle

The megadrought model prediction is nothing but climate astrology
Climate astrologers give real astrologers a bad reputation

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Possibly these climate astrologers need to stick their heads out the window once in a while, [...]

That's how they calibrate and test their models.

 

[metalman]

That's how they calibrate and test their models.

Then they need to be pelted with snowballs until they figure out that the white stuff outside their window is snow, not cotton, and its cold

 

[robert l. bentham]

Climate astrologers give real astrologers a bad reputation

i really, really hope your right... i also wanted santa and the tooth fairy to be real too...

 

[metalman]

Blizzard Clobbers Amarillo, Wichita, Kansas City

Better look out your window and get a global warming & megadrought update due "to lack of snow"

 

[robert l. bentham]

Blizzard Clobbers Amarillo, Wichita, Kansas City

Better look out your window and get a global warming & megadrought update due "to lack of snow"

you know what, i think your worldview on this is far less depressing than mine... i have water to drink today, and "smart" people tell me i will have plenty tomorrow, so i shant worry any longer...

 

[faethor]

You're thinking of religion. Science keeps on moving, refining itself to more closely approach reality. The new model has higher resolution than the old models and accounts for more inputs. It also better matches reality. We could not have computed the new model previously because machines were not powerful enough to run them.
The new model more accurately predicts precipitation patterns but that doesn't make the old science "wrong" nor the new. Einstein's gravity better describes reality than Newton's but Newton's is still a useful approximation. It's not like the new model fundamentally contradicts the old.

Great explanation of how science works.

One other scientific comparative people should be familiar with is Evolution. When Darwin published his paper it was the beginning of a new area of in-depth research. We know things that Darwin did not. For example, the existence of DNA and RNA. Those things haven't found Evolution to be wrong but has greatly refined our understanding of how the process works. Today all of the fine details that are yet to be fully understood, and thus there still is great debate within Evolution. That debate doesn't make Evolution wrong, instead it focuses on how we better understand that scientific field of research.

The anti-science crowd seems to want to sell us a version of Teach the Controversy around Climatology.

 

[cecilia]

 

[redrumloa]

Blizzard Clobbers Amarillo, Wichita, Kansas City

Better look out your window and get a global warming & megadrought update due "to lack of snow"

But, but, I thought our kids just wouldn't know what snow was?

Send some of it this way! South Florida is crappy hot!!!!