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FluffyMcDeath
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How much is the war worth to you?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:24 pm
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The price-tag, or rather, the funding request from the White House for 2008 is $189.3 billion.
That's about $1700 per household, which means that your share is a mere $140 per month if you are a US citizen. Is that value for money? Is there anything else you'd rather be doing with that money, like ... buying gas for your car? |
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Fade
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:38 pm
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Hey maybe if we could get you Canadians to cough up about, oh say two grand each a year for the protection the US has been suppling to Canada for the last fifty years, we could have a net gain.
How much is your life worth to you on a yearly basis?
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cecilia
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:19 pm
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we shouldn't be wasting gas by using it in cars.
frankly all wars are a waste of time, lives, resources and everything else.
And i was taught that lesson from a man who spent his youth in the trenches.
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FluffyMcDeath
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:53 pm
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| Fade wrote: | Hey maybe if we could get you Canadians to cough up about, oh say two grand each a year for the protection the US has been suppling to Canada for the last fifty years, we could have a net gain.
How much is your life worth to you on a yearly basis? |
Yeah. You believe that like you believe you won WWII. Makes you feel good to credit for stuff, don't it.
Anyway, you won't be getting that money from us. It's not our war. You wanted it, you gotta pay for it. It's not like it was necessary. |
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faethor
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:17 am
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@FluffyMcDeath
It's very clear that the USA has protected Canada for the last 50 years. You'll all figure it out within the next several years. The years of Republican control will have bankrupted America but we'll provide cheap gas to the Mexican-Canadian highway. They're coming to steal UR jobs now.
The payments Fade is requesting will help prop up the US and keep them here instead. At some point China is going to figure out the USA is a losing game and they aren't afraid of illegal Mexicans so your country will have to do the funding.
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FluffyMcDeath
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Re: How much is the war worth to you?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:10 am
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| Ooooooh. Estimate for the total cost (much higher than the estimate the war was sold under, of course. Who should be sued for the difference?) is coming in around eight grand .... for each man and woman and child in the US. Wonder if that includes illegals? Some of the illegals are of course "over there" right now fighting for their green cards. |
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faethor
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Re: How much is the war worth to you?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:43 pm
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| FluffyMcDeath wrote: | | Ooooooh. Estimate for the total cost (much higher than the estimate the war was sold under, of course. Who should be sued for the difference?) is coming in around eight grand .... for each man and woman and child in the US. |
Or conversely how much per man, woman, and child in Iraq? Over $100,000 each.
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smithy
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:42 am
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| FluffyMcDeath wrote: | `
It's not like it was necessary. |
Confronting facism is always necessary. It used to be something the mainstream left was proud of (and very good at). Nowadays, leftist thinking, bizarrely, seems to be all about how to "understand" and "accomodate" regimes that are fundamentally opposed to everything the left stands for.
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Glaucus
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:22 am
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| smithy wrote: | | FluffyMcDeath wrote: | `
It's not like it was necessary. |
Confronting facism is always necessary. It used to be something the mainstream left was proud of (and very good at). Nowadays, leftist thinking, bizarrely, seems to be all about how to "understand" and "accomodate" regimes that are fundamentally opposed to everything the left stands for. |
Nonsense. If by "left" you mean Democrats, then you make no sense. Confronting fascism does not necessarily mean invading Iraq. By all intents and purposes, Saddam and his brand of fascism was well contained within Iraq. His WMD programs were clearly gutted and even his conventional forces were severely depleted and out dated. He posed no real threat to his neighbors and treatment of his own people was no worse then any of the neighboring states. In fact, Iraq was the most secular of all Arab states and women enjoyed significant equality (unlike many other Arab states which treat women as second or third rate citizens and for some reason all anti-Saddamers feel is perfectly acceptable). Yes Saddam cracked down hard on up rises, but no more so then any other dictator (or even US forces in Iraq today - air strikes and white phosphorous in populated areas anyone?). Non of this justified an invasion.
I believe his wickedness was ridiculously exaggerated to support the invasion for reasons that were never openly made public.
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FluffyMcDeath
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:11 am
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| smithy wrote: | | FluffyMcDeath wrote: | `
It's not like it was necessary. |
Confronting facism is always necessary. It used to be something the mainstream left was proud of (and very good at). Nowadays, leftist thinking, bizarrely, seems to be all about how to "understand" and "accomodate" regimes that are fundamentally opposed to everything the left stands for. |
Perhaps people should confront the fascists running their own country before they point fingers at other people's fascists. |
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