1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed

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Not really too surprising. 2001-2007 barely enough jobs were created to fully employ all college graduates. Then 2007-2009 happened and everything created plus some was dumped. I wish we could recover 8 years of harm in 2. The fact of the matter is in the Fall of 2009 when still under the Bush Era Policies the nation reached double digit unemployment. 2 years of Obama Era programs and we're up.

Unforunately walking up hill takes more effort than falling down. I think the biggest negative we can say about the 'Hope and Change' is the it's not fast enough but far better than what the Republican candidate purposed.
 
Well, I think a lot of the kids were sold a bunch of crap, too. "Get a degree in anything, and the world will be at your doorstep, begging you to grace them with your presence." It just doesn't work that way. Even in fields where there are supposedly "shortages" of people... You still have to be excellent at marketing yourself and stand out from the crowd. You have to have something unique to offer. And you have to be willing to actually show up and work. And, unless you're strictly a hired gun contractor... You probably have to get in and do some boring/dirty work now and then. You gotta do the job that needs to be done. Why? Because someone has to...

I feel bad for the thousands of kids that get the liberal arts degrees and then are competing for the couple hundred job openings out there. As much as we knew that degree was going to be a hard path... The colleges, professors, and "academic advisers" were all selling it to the kids as a sure-fire ticket to success. And those kids slurped up all that Kool-Aid, because it was what they wanted to hear, and because it was what they have heard and had all their lives. Up until after graduation, they've never been in a position where they COULD fail...

Of course, it sucks to be fresh to the job market, on all sides. There aren't a lot of quality entry-level jobs left, either. Everyone wants to hire experience. No one wants help someone new build experience.
 
ilwrath said:
The colleges, professors, and "academic advisers" were all selling it to the kids as a sure-fire ticket to success.
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The professors I don't necessarily think so. They like their subject and they like their jobs but I don't think it was they who were selling this.

I always thought of a BA as something you take after you retire. But colleges are always looking to sell seats and the loan writers are always looking to sell debt and with more loans available the colleges could fill more seats and charge higher fees and with higher fees more loans needed to be written - it's just another bubble and the education industry and the banking industry worked together to inflate it - and it's probably not to coincidental that a banking family like the Bush's should also put their oar into education. They are one of the families that is in the loop and know where to put their money.
 
ilwrath said:
The colleges, professors, and "academic advisers" were all selling it to the kids as a sure-fire ticket to success.
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I've never done a Liberal Arts course (although I did do a SoundEngineering course) but every time I've been a student (including now) the lecturers and professors have generally been quite realistic about job prospects.

Of course, it probably varies widely from place to place but that's my own experience of higher education.
 
when I left grad school and tried to find Something .....I looked at a local bank and was told I was OVER educated.

when has it ever been easy to find a job???
 
i left us army signal school to find i was overqualified to even install cable tv... micro wave receiver technology... too smart to string cable tv to your house... nice.... first of many jobs i didnt get until i employed myself....
 
yeah, self employment was basically my route as well.
 
But colleges are always looking to sell seats and the loan writers are always looking to sell debt and with more loans available the colleges could fill more seats and charge higher fees and with higher fees more loans needed to be written - it's just another bubble and the education industry and the banking industry worked together to inflate it - and it's probably not to coincidental that a banking family like the Bush's should also put their oar into education. They are one of the families that is in the loop and know where to put their money.
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Well, that's a whole other facet of the problem, as well, isn't it? As much as the banks wrote bad checks for the housing market, they've written bad checks for the educational market, too. They encourage these kids take out $50,000-$100,000 or more in debt, and they know the job prospects for these kids are not good... But the banks sure fall all over themselves to offer the money. Just sign here! (Quick! Before you think about it!)
 
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