2011 was a warm year, eh?

Climatologists certainly say the sun is one of the largest contributing factors. That doesn't change for 2008-2010 we saw the least active sun and some of the higest temps ever measured. If this sun is the only factor we'd track more in accordance with the solar cycles.
 
faethor said:
That doesn't change for 2008-2010 we saw the least active sun and some of the higest temps ever measured.
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This is bunk because in 2009 half the planet was frozen over for months. In 2009 there was a clear sign of global COOLING over the previous decade, hence the "hide the decline".
 
Hide the decline is a cake of lies. Strangely the anti-global wamests care to not track these things themselves. So the best we can do is use NOAA. - http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2009/

Don't forget and a temp above average but still below freezing will produce ice and snow, while still being hotter than normal.
 
redrumloa said:
This is bunk because in 2009 half the planet was frozen over for months. In 2009 there was a clear sign of global COOLING over the previous decade, hence the "hide the decline".
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If you'd like to check out and chart the solar cycle for yourself you could start with the source data. Looking at 2009 or thereabouts you'll see we went through a fairly sparse time for sun spots. The most recent similar looking cycle to my eye is one that has a minimum around 1854 though this last one seems slightly more dire.

A quick check of temperatures shows ...
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2009 was colder than the years on either side of it - but nowhere near as cold as any year in the 1800s (at least not as far back as the middle of the 1800s before which this temperature chart does not stretch).
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
2009 was colder than the years on either side of it - but nowhere near as cold as any year in the 1800s (at least not as far back as the middle of the 1800s before which this temperature chart does not stretch).
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Of course it was nowhere near as cold as any year in the 1800's as that was the ending of the Little Ice Age. Complete absurdity.
 
Another year, another trolling climate thread from Jim.

The more things change......
 
redrumloa said:
Of course it was nowhere near as cold as any year in the 1800's as that was the ending of the Little Ice Age. Complete absurdity.
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I thought you were trying to say that the temperature is controlled by the sun's output therefore it one would expect that two periods with similar solar activity would have similar temperatures.
 
Tomorrow is predicted to be 50 (average high 24) in Minneapolis and 60 (average high 27) in Winona. Looks like the hot winter continues here.
 
In other news, it is lows in the 30's in Sunny South Florida.
 
I know. We have to go South for snow this year. EEK!
 
March is usually Minnesota's snowiest month. So, we're not out of it yet.
 
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