5 Reasons Progressives Should Join the Ron Paul Revolution

[cybereye]

The more he speaks truth to power, the more he exposes the false political paradigm where there are very few meaningful differences between establishment candidates despite their labels. Progressives should join Ron Paul's peaceful revolution now if they expect any real change.

I forgot the link. Here the link.

 

[cecilia]

I've been a Ron Paul fan long before it became "fashionable".
and the reason you don't hear most of the media talking about him is because it doesn't suit the murdoch evil empire to have an ethical human being being discussed seriously.
Ron Paul has been interviewed on MSNBC, btw....I've seen it myself.

 

[faethor]

Kucinich / Paul 2012!

My problem with Paul is some of the stuff in his past looks fairly racist. He also seem to be anti-equal rights and is of course anti-abortion. I think if this were the ticket the good of each might temper the bad of each.

 

[cybereye]

Kucinich / Paul 2012!
My problem with Paul is some of the stuff in his past looks fairly racist. He also seem to be anti-equal rights and is of course anti-abortion. I think if this were the ticket the good of each might temper the bad of each.

I don't know what give you the idea of racist and anti-equal rights. I know he is anti-abortion, but he does not want the government tell the people what can and can't do. Every time a reporter ask him about abortion. He keep pointing out let the state deal with it. He does not want the government to hold hands for people.

 

[cybereye]

I've been a Ron Paul fan long before it became "fashionable".

Ummmm, Did you know that Ron Paul does not want to tax the rich?

 

[faethor]

I don't know what give you the idea of racist and anti-equal rights.

Okay perhaps Ron isn't racist and anti-equal rights. He thinks the gov shouldn't tell you what you can or cannot do. Civil and Equal rights laws are there to disallow the racist and sexist which creates a society of inequity. Definitely against the idea that 'all men are created equal'. So, his ideas while perhaps not racist himself his ideas do end up promoting racism.

I know he is anti-abortion, but he does not want the government tell the people what can and can't do.

If the government says you can't have an abortion that's clearly the gov telling people what they can and can't do. Allowing abortion is the option where people can make their own decisions. Doesn't matter if the State deals with it or not. If the States outlaw abortion then the gov is telling people what they can't do.

Ron Paul has stated repeatedly he wants to go back to the original laws at the founding of this nation. He gets fairly good lipservice from this overarching idea. The problem is people dream of nostalgia of a bygone era that never really existed. Do we really want to return to a time where 7 year olds worked in dangerous environments or take away the rights of women to vote? I don't think so.

 

[cecilia]

Ummmm, Did you know that Ron Paul does not want to tax the rich?

nobody's perfect
the difference is that I don't expect perfection.
I like Ron Paul because he's not an evil scumbag.

I like Bernie Sanders for the same reason.

 

[cybereye]

Ron Paul has stated repeatedly he wants to go back to the original laws at the founding of this nation. He gets fairly good lipservice from this overarching idea. The problem is people dream of nostalgia of a bygone era that never really existed. Do we really want to return to a time where 7 year olds worked in dangerous environments or take away the rights of women to vote? I don't think so.

When US became independence from the king, US did not free the slave until much later as it should have been from the start. When slave finally become free it became apartheid again it was not equal until much later. Now there is no apartheid for the black in US as far I know. Now we loss the freedom of chose how we choose. Why there is club only for gay, funds for the women only, or homes only for the seniors. What wrong with the picture? Is that double standards? If there is a white funds, club, or homes the law will stamp them as racist. Now the white is somewhat apartheid again. Those laws are old and times have change and people will vote with their money. I don't think companies will hire 7 year old kids cause the people will fight back with money, protest, and it hurt the company image as well. People have change 200 years ago and hopefully smarter as well.

Doesn't matter if the State deals with it or not. If the States outlaw abortion then the gov is telling people what they can't do.

That what it should do. If the US outlaw abortion then it remove the freedom that no matter what state you move to. If I don't like the law, I just move to another state because it my freedom to move. If all states outlaw abortion then it really never needed the US to make law in the first place.

 

[Glaucus]

Ron Paul may not do anything at all in terms of abortion directly, but instead may do some of the stupid things Bush did, like restrict government grants to research that doesn't use aborted fetuses or something similar. By now anti-abortionists understand fighting the abortion laws head on is very much an uphill battle, so instead they use orthogonal methods of attack. I would expect Ron Paul to go that route despite what he says about current abortion laws.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Ron Paul may not do anything at all in terms of abortion directly,

Abortion is not where his interests lie. His big issues are to audit Fort Knox, get rid of the Federal Reserve and bring the troops home (including closing foreign US bases and defunding the military a good deal).

His approach to deregulation and taxation are not in line with my own preference - we see that industries need to be regulated by more than just the market because we have seen the kind of trouble we get when they try to evade rules.

He would certainly lead the debates down territory that we have not been able to go down in recent (last 30) years.

 

[faethor]

Now the white is somewhat apartheid again.

And yet white males who make up less than 40% of the populations are a clear majority of the group that run businesses and the majority in the positions of power in the government. The unemployment rate is nearly twice as high for blacks as it is for whites. There are more black men in prision than in college. If this is white apartheid then they're doing damn well.

Those laws are old and times have change and people will vote with their money. I don't think companies will hire 7 year old kids cause the people will fight back with money, protest, and it hurt the company image as well. People have change 200 years ago and hopefully smarter as well.

Companies are built to make money. If they respected the US worker we wouldn't have seen an exodus of jobs to China where they employ the youth. If companies could hire the youth in the USA for the same rate of course they'll do that. Then they avoid the shipping fees across the ocean, saving costs, and increasing profits. Company image be damned.

That what it should do. If the US outlaw abortion then it remove the freedom that no matter what state you move to. If I don't like the law, I just move to another state because it my freedom to move. If all states outlaw abortion then it really never needed the US to make law in the first place.

Not following you here. Paul claims to be against rules by the government to control behaviors. Enabling anti-abortion legislation is exactly the creation of a rule by the gov to control a behavior. It's an internal conflict within his positions.

 

[cybereye]

And yet white males who make up less than 40% of the populations are a clear majority of the group that run businesses and the majority in the positions of power in the government. The unemployment rate is nearly twice as high for blacks as it is for whites. There are more black men in prision than in college. If this is white apartheid then they're doing damn well.

That had nothing to do with race. It had to do with education and culture. White male are mostly education and live in a respected family culture. Most black have poor education, don’t respected other people and many have organized crime culture. We have a black president as a proof of education and live in a respected family. There is a Republican presidential candidate Michael Steele who is black. Oprah Winfrey is a black woman billionaires running her company call Harpo Inc. James Bell became a CEO of Boeing until shareholder find a replacement. . James Bell still work for Boeing as a CFO. If there is a white funds, club, or homes the law will stamp them as racist. There is a problem.

Companies are built to make money. If they respected the US worker we wouldn't have seen an exodus of jobs to China where they employ the youth. If companies could hire the youth in the USA for the same rate of course they'll do that. Then they avoid the shipping fees across the ocean, saving costs, and increasing profits. Company image be damned.

US worker and China worker have different culture. When China was a poor country 35 years ago, many will do anything for US dollars. Many families are farmers and are not education. The families send their kids to labors to make extra cash. Later, kids get older become smarter and start to defend and seek independence. China did not like that and somewhat create independence in commercial economy. A commercial economy with its own organization based on the principle of trusteeship of China instead of ownership.

Not following you here. Paul claims to be against rules by the government to control behaviors. Enabling anti-abortion legislation is exactly the creation of a rule by the gov to control a behavior. It's an internal conflict within his positions.

Each state has their owned idea of what laws should follow, not the US government. If all 50 state have the same law without the US government as it show that the US government did not needed to get involve.

 

[Dammy]

Ummmm, Did you know that Ron Paul does not want to tax the rich?

What is your definition of "rich"?

 

[Dammy]

That had nothing to do with race. It had to do with education and culture. White male are mostly education and live in a respected family culture. Most black have poor education, don’t respected other people and many have organized crime culture. We have a black president as a proof of education and live in a respected family. There is a Republican presidential candidate Michael Steele who is black

Steele was the head of the RNC for two years. The gentleman you are talking about is Herman Cain

 

[cybereye]

Steele was the head of the RNC for two years. The gentleman you are talking about is Herman Cain

Yes, you are correct. I should have check it before posted or I just go to bed before posted.