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Wayne

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So. I'm back.

Traveled the 2000 miles round trip to see my dad this past weekend. Removed the virus from his computer, meaning I took him a Mac, migrated him, and boxed his Windows 10 PC.. Time will tell, but he seems much happier.

Strictly speaking, I'm tuckered the hell out. The 10-hour drive yesterday turned into a nearly 14 hour drive, packed traffic the whole way back. The only good thing was that was able to fill the tank at $1.77 per gallon yesterday, $32 to refill the whole car from basically dead empty. I wish it could stay that way, but even CNN admits that gas prices are being artificially lowered until after the election...

Have a great rest of the week ladies and gentlemen..

Wayne
 
even CNN admits that gas prices are being artificially lowered until after the election...
Perhaps - but reserves are at an all time high, I hear, and demand is way down. World demand on crude is down and OPEC is still over-producing slightly but the financial sector also can play a role depressing prices. A few months back the theory was that the price of crude is down artificially to harm Russia - of course, it's a bit of an own goal if that were the case because it has hurt the shale oil / fracking industry too and Canada is hurt too because of our dependence on oil exports.

On a more positive note - good to hear that there is one less Windows 10 machine being used.
 
On a more positive note - good to hear that there is one less Windows 10 machine being used.
Lots of people are loving Windows. In even trying to copy files to a thumb drive to migrate to the Mac Mini, it wanted me to provide social networking information no less than three times. Someone as "leave me alone" as my dad had already turned off all the bad stuff (that I could tell, walking through the tutorials) but still couldn't tolerate the virtual requirement to subscribe to their "steal my info" social networking stuff.

Yes, the Mac still has iCloud, and yes, they want you to use it for some stuff (like App sharing) but -- unlike Windows -- it isn't REQUIRED (at least yet)...

Wayne
 
Lots of people are loving Windows. In even trying to copy files to a thumb drive to migrate to the Mac Mini, it wanted me to provide social networking information no less than three times. Someone as "leave me alone" as my dad had already turned off all the bad stuff (that I could tell, walking through the tutorials) but still couldn't tolerate the virtual requirement to subscribe to their "steal my info" social networking stuff.

Yes, the Mac still has iCloud, and yes, they want you to use it for some stuff (like App sharing) but -- unlike Windows -- it isn't REQUIRED (at least yet)...

Weird. I've used Windows 10 quite a bit, now, from pre-release through current on both Pro and Enterprise. Neither nagged me a single bit about any social network functions. You CAN integrate a Live account for Pro to use for managing logins (much like how Enterprise hooks to a Domain, you can hook your Windows 10 Pro to Microsoft's Live Accounts management, if you like.) Of course, you could do that back in Windows 8, too. And much like Windows 8, the option to SKIP doing that, if you don't want to is still rather hidden... (pick to sign up for an new account, and then read the fine print and pick the Use Local Accounts only option. It won't bug you again. Unless you try to use the rather terrible built-in email, or Microsoft Store... Or the rather more useful OneDrive or XBox integration features.)

If you do choose to use OneDrive, you'll need a Live account. Exactly like if you choose to use iCloud you need an iTunes account.

I'm pretty far from a Microsoft apologist, but I just don't get what all the hubbub is about Windows 10. It really doesn't do anything that Windows 8, Android, and Apple haven't been doing for years. That's not to say I agree with it. But if you're really that paranoid about being technology tracking you... You've got much bigger fish to fry than the few differences this release presents.
 
I'm more of a Microsoft hater than an Apple fanboy these days, and it's true that I don't know how my dad set it Windows 10 when it was downloaded and ready to install.

I wish I were there to do it for him, but in his words, "Windows 10 sucks", so I just have to go with that and try to get my 71-year-old farming-oriented dad something easier to use. That precludes Windows and Linux, and Microsoft even refused to let me wipe his system and do a fresh install of Windows 7 since he'd already upgraded to 10... Even then, the new spyware/virus stuff they'd added has been added to Windows 7 and 8 when you patch, so you still have the same privacy nightmare that freaks him out.

I used his Windows 10 for all of about a half-hour moving music and bookmarks to a thumb drive, and can agree with him. IMNSHO, compared to OS X, Windows 10 blows unless you REALLY love having to work on computers...

I don't know whether or not what he ended up after installing with was typical, but for example, his "start menu" (compared to his Windows 7 install) was difficult for him to use and 10x more confusing to use -- even for me -- than it ever needed to be. Totally unusable by anyone who isn't computer-oriented.

.. As I said, he has a quantum jump "having to learn" the Mac OS, but I spent the weekend showing him how to do the stuff he does and so far, he seems happier...

Wayne
 
Well, I'm certainly not saying it was a bad choice to do that... Everyone has preferences on what they want to do and use. There are plenty of reasons to like OSX.

And yeah, if you just jumped from Windows XP or 7 to 10, without paying much attention... It could be a bit of a culture shock. 10 superficially looks a lot more like 7, but works a lot more like 8 should have.

There were actually some pretty big changes in account management from 7 to 8. Most of these got completely missed because everyone was caught in the "OMG THIS UI IS SO LAME!!1!" outrage. (Which was pretty rightfully deserved. The UI in 8/8.1 is absolutely terrible for desktop/laptop use.)

But Windows 10 works a lot more like a device than the typical desktop OS like XP or even Windows 7 was. There is a lot of benefit to this, and honestly, I expect Apple will go this way soon enough, as well. They've been aiming to unify more and more of the principals between iOS and OSX for years. They're just a bit more politically astute and been doing it slower. Whereas Microsoft just figured it would be a good idea to scream "CANNONBALL!!!!" and dive in, making as big a splash as possible. And they're dealing with the rather predictable backlash, now. Windows 10 requires some rather blunt changes to the mindset you approach the computer with.

But those changes are not anything you shouldn't already be familiar with. You just don't realize it, yet. I mean, when was the last time you thought of iOS as an OS? Probably never, right? It's just the thing that manages your iTunes account and associated services. Windows 10 is obviously a full Windows OS, and carries all the heavyweight background that entails... But it tries to mask a lot of that, and hides it behind all those account management functions. It manages your Live account and services for your personal device, and domain account and services for corporate devices. In a lot of ways, this is really good. It marginalizes the hardware, itself, and makes your computer experience more about your own accounts and data, and less about managing the physical computer. Now, obviously, it's still got a ways to go, but I believe it is a step in the right direction. Even if it's also a bit of a stubbed toe in places.

And, finally, the whole privacy nightmare of "information collection for validation feedback, test data, performance information" stuff is done by absolutely every modern device. Find me a cell phone, router, desktop OS, gaming console, blu-ray player, smart TV, cable box, DVR, or any home automation tool that doesn't do that. I'm not saying I like it. I'm not saying it's right. But that is modern technology. As I see it, you still have the same three choices.

1) You can go all off-grid and harvest your own everything. Live in isolation.
2) You can still try to live a modern life, but force your digital devices into isolation. Sure, it means you can't have a cell phone, as you have no way to monitor its connection... But nothing saying you can't set up a private wired network and have a firewall that blocks everything but the traffic you specifically allow and bless. Of course, you better make sure that your firewall is running open source routing software... And better double check the schematics of the hardware, too... And of course it means you'll miss out on all the updates, fixes, and performance enhancements in trade for not sharing all that other data. Plus it is a giant pain in the ass. And some of those networked features are really nice advancements...
3) You can accept it, and accept the somewhat queasy feeling that you don't know exactly everything your devices do or see. Because even under cases one and two there are a lot of loopholes and things that can still catch you...

But these are the same trade-off options you've already had for years.

In short, I'm not saying Windows 10 is awesome. But so much of the perception about it being so much more invasive than every other product is just that... Perception. Frankly, I trust it more than I trust an Android or iOS device. Take that for what it's worth. (Not much, as it is very obvious how little I trust my phone.)
 
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Weird. I've used Windows 10 quite a bit, now, from pre-release through current on both Pro and Enterprise. Neither nagged me a single bit about any social network functions.
Same here. I have upgraded multiple machines to Windows 10 and I was never nagged about social networking credentials. During the installation process, I was asked if I wanted to use a Live account which I declined. That was it.
 
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