Glaucus said:
You and I have spent a lot of time criticizing Israel and Zionism, Ahmadinejad has spent a lot of time promising his followers that the world when Israel no longer exists is on it's way: Soon this stain of disgrace will be cleaned from the garment of the world of Islam, and this is attainable. Yep, all one needs is a few nuclear weapons.
That would be suicidal. There is no gain for Iran in nuking Israel. Israel is quite prepared to use what it calls its "Samson Option" and irradiate the entire region (and probably some European capitals too) with its not insignificant nuclear arsenal.
I was not able to find any source for the quote you used but if it's a reference to the supposed "wiped off the map" quote:
this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)
is quite clearly talking about the zionist regime ruling Israel. Nuclear weapons are quite useless at combating zionism as a war is useless for combating terrorism. Zionism is an ideology and is undermined by exposure to daylight.
[quote:14yavgtq]It would be similar to saying that people who oppose Nazism, criticize Adolf Hitler and commemorate the Holocaust are hating Germans.
False analogy because it's a false argument. It's not about criticism, it's about threats. Slight difference there.
[/quote:14yavgtq] So the allied powers that threatened Germany with war (and actually DID go to war) were German hating? So WWII was actually a war of racism?
Let's not forget that Iran funds and possibly arms Israel's enemies.
Let's not forget that Israel and the US fund and arm Iran's enemies (and also are Iran's enemies). Let us not forget that Israel is currently occupying territory that is not theirs (while continuing to oppress the population there and steal land and resources) and that Israel has in quite recent memory invaded its neighbours. Let us not forget that the US currently occupies the country on the eastern border of Iran and also occupies the country on the western border of Iran, one and quite likely, both of which it occupies contrary to international law.
Obama says that Iran is failing to follow laws all nations must obey and yet Iran IS obeying the laws while the US and Israel flout them.
From my point of view I see no saints just a lot of sinners.
You just support one set of sinners over the other and would happily see the ones who live nearest you slaughter the ones who live furthest away.
There are self loathing Americans, but it's not determined by how you vote.
There are people who loath themselves - that's true - but someone who hates a group does not count themselves in the group. One man's "Self Hating American" is another man's "True Patriot".
High treason might be considered a sign of self loathing.
High treason is a crime against the rulers. The rulers are not the ruled.
Hate of your own "kind" is not hate of yourself. "Self Hating Jew" is still bullshit. The Jews that criticize Israel do NOT hate themselves nor even do they hate Jews in general. The people that yell "Self Hating Jew" hate those Jews. The people who use the label are the haters. Every time.
