Algerian "act of aggression"

[Robert]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14714340

Algeria's UN envoy has defended his country's decision to grant refuge to the wife and three children of fugitive Libyan leader leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Mourad Benmehidi told the BBC that in the desert region there was a "holy rule of hospitality".

A rebel spokesman called the move an "act of aggression against the Libyan people"

Is it just me that see's the Libyan rebel spokesman's use of language as needlessly provocative?
What are they going to do - attack Algeria? (Or should I say, "get NATO to bomb it to pieces first?")

 

[the_leander]

Tbh given the overstretch that was Libya, I have very real doubts that there is either the money or the political will to go after Algeria.

 

[Robert]

Tbh given the overstretch that was Libya, I have very real doubts that there is either the money or the political will to go after Algeria.

I agree on the political will - there doesn't appear to be much for NATO to gain from Algeria. As for money, well there wasn't really enough to go after Gadaffi but it didn't stop them.

However, neither of those were my point. I was merely pointing out the language used by the "New Guys In Charge" (tm).

"Act Of Aggression"
Really?

Extremely provocative and unwelcome and this guy's only been in a position of 'power' for five minutes. I suppose it's further evidence that power corrupts.

 

[the_leander]

"Act Of Aggression"
Really?

Extremely provocative and unwelcome and this guy's only been in a position of power for five minutes. I suppose it's further evidence that power corrupts.

From what I've read, they weren't all that nice to begin with as a group.

But I think they'll be in for one hell of a shock if they try to go after Algeria without NATO. Those fellas play for keeps.

 

[Dammy]

Tbh given the overstretch that was Libya, I have very real doubts that there is either the money or the political will to go after Algeria.

Algeria has oil (France), so it will eventually happen there as well in the same manner as we saw in Egypt via Muslim Brotherhood.

 

[Robert]

From what I've read, they weren't all that nice to begin with as a group.

I suppose NATO "protecting civilians" by bombing towns and cities isn't a particularly helpful example for them to follow either.

 

[Robert]

Algeria has oil (France), so it will eventually happen there as well...

Fair point.

 

[the_leander]

Algeria has oil (France), so it will eventually happen there as well in the same manner as we saw in Egypt via Muslim Brotherhood.

Difference is, as far as I can tell the Muslim Brotherhood are pretty much unknown in Algeria. The issues that allowed them to grow within Egypt and Tunisia simply don't exist (or at least exist to the levels found in the other two) within Algeria.

 

[Dammy]

Difference is, as far as I can tell the Muslim Brotherhood are pretty much unknown in Algeria. The issues that allowed them to grow within Egypt and Tunisia simply don't exist (or at least exist to the levels found in the other two) within Algeria.

It should be relatively easy to coordinate with the different radical Muslim terrorist groups that want Algeria free from France's thumb on Algeria in favor of a Caliphate. All the MB has to do is inject leaders/trainers with cash into those groups, and it's game on.

 

[Glaucus]

Is it just me that see's the Libyan rebel spokesman's use of language as needlessly provocative?

It sure is provocative, but I can fully understand why he'd be seriously pissed off. His objective is to wipe the Gaddafi family off the face of the planet to ensure they never have a chance of return. This complicates things, especially if Muammar Gaddafi also turns up in Algeria seeking asylum. Making threats towards Algeria may cause them to stop and think if giving them asylum is such a wise idea.

 

[the_leander]

It should be relatively easy to coordinate with the different radical Muslim terrorist groups that want Algeria free from France's thumb on Algeria in favor of a Caliphate.

Most Algerians realise that there is much to be gained from close ties to France. As I said, many of the issues that allowed the Arab spring to take root as it did in Egypt and Tunisia simply don't apply to Algeria.

Sure, you'll find a handful of malcontents, just as you will within any society. But there isn't the overwhelming desire to dump what they have as there was in other places. Not nearly enough to seriously threaten the state as it exists today.

All the MB has to do is inject leaders/trainers with cash into those groups, and it's game on.

I think you'll find it's a bit more difficult than that.

 

[the_leander]

I suppose NATO "protecting civilians" by bombing towns and cities isn't a particularly helpful example for them to follow either.

Quite.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

However, neither of those were my point. I was merely pointing out the language used by the "New Guys In Charge" (tm).

The rebels aren't actually in charge yet (and likely won't be, instead being subservient to NATO).
The US and old colonial powers want to break up the African Union (which does not recognized the rebels as the government of Libya which is not surprising since they have very little popular support and aren't actually a cohesive unit but a very small minority of largely foreigners and radicals). Libya was the cornerstone of the African Union.

France has been wanting to get Algeria back for years and it will be partly the job of the rebels and recently freed Al Qaeda prisoners to go and stir up trouble in Africa so that NATO can save the day again.

 

[Robert]

The rebels aren't actually in charge yet (and likely won't be, instead being subservient to NATO).

I know (hence the quote marks) but they're being presented as such by the BBC.

 

[Dammy]

The rebels aren't actually in charge yet (and likely won't be, instead being subservient to NATO).
The US and old colonial powers want to break up the African Union (which does not recognized the rebels as the government of Libya which is not surprising since they have very little popular support and aren't actually a cohesive unit but a very small minority of largely foreigners and radicals). Libya was the cornerstone of the African Union.

France has been wanting to get Algeria back for years and it will be partly the job of the rebels and recently freed Al Qaeda prisoners to go and stir up trouble in Africa so that NATO can save the day again.

That's not what the Elites want, so I doubt that will happen that way. They want the North Africa and Middle East countries to fall to the MB so the Caliphate will preside. Once that happens, it's down hill from there for all oil producing countries and the Elites can charge $150-$200 per barrel and people will be happy to pay it. That type of cost for energy will drive western countries, including the US, into a Great Depression stage that will collapse the EURO and USD. Enter in the One World currency backed by gold/silver from our glorious new leaders, the Global Elites.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

That's not what the Elites want, so I doubt that will happen that way.

The elites aren't gods and they don't have absolute control and they aren't all working together.

They want the North Africa and Middle East countries to fall to the MB so the Caliphate will preside.

All they need is for the African countries to be disorganized and distrustful of each other. The African Union could have caused considerable annoyance to US and European business interests and would likely have been too friendly with China since China is willing to pay.

Once that happens, it's down hill from there for all oil producing countries and the Elites can charge $150-$200 per barrel and people will be happy to pay it. That type of cost for energy will drive western countries, including the US, into a Great Depression stage that will collapse the EURO and USD. Enter in the One World currency backed by gold/silver from our glorious new leaders, the Global Elites.

A large number of the elites don't want that because they still use USD and there just isn't enough gold in the world to run the place. There is something like an 1/8th oz of gold per person on the planet. Non-industrial silver is even less because silver gets used up just about as fast as it is mined.

There is a game afoot (as ever is) between competing elite interests.