amiga.org down for upgrades?
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I don't think I've been on Amiga.org in 5+ years.
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I drop by from time to time. I was there just a couple of weeks ago. Looked about the same as ever.
Welp, after a decade of no changes at all, it should be interesting...
Yah, really. Makes you wonder what of it will survive and make it back online.
Hopefully they don't flush much of the actual Amiga threads. There was a lot of useful information in those for anyone who wants to actually do something with an Amiga. It'd be a shame for that to go down the memory hole. There aren't many people out there with the same levels of useful information as there were a decade ago or more.
I did stop by there a few weeks ago. I actually logged in to reply to a thread, and realized my last login date was over two years ago. lol
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According to the site, they plan to keep as much of the user forums (via archive) as possible. I was there the day before it went down and yesterday (still down).
In other AMiGA news, I scored a very late production QuikPak 4060T with 60Mhz 060 processor. This was the final iteration of the Amiga 4000T that I wrote about back when Redrumloa was trying to get new A4000Ts from the remains of SW Hut. It is the elusive “Super A4000T” that was built specifically for toaster users. As an interesting aside, this version of the MOBO has no SIMM sockets on it. FASTRAM must be on the CPU Card (for better performance).
Later,
Ltstanfo
In other AMiGA news, I scored a very late production QuikPak 4060T with 60Mhz 060 processor. This was the final iteration of the Amiga 4000T that I wrote about back when Redrumloa was trying to get new A4000Ts from the remains of SW Hut. It is the elusive “Super A4000T” that was built specifically for toaster users. As an interesting aside, this version of the MOBO has no SIMM sockets on it. FASTRAM must be on the CPU Card (for better performance).
Later,
Ltstanfo
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We have a thread here on Whyzzat call Old Computers that is a catch all for retro computers talk. If you felt like posting pics and info there, I'd love to see it.
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Can do... it was shipped disassembled.
Well, I was kind of curious what the new Amiga.org would look like. But in a move that should surprise no one, it appears that they are upholding the finest of Amiga traditions in regards to being on-schedule and rockin'.
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Just checked. (Tuesday, 8am) Still brewing... Wonder if they'd sell it back to me
Would you really want to go back to the cesspool the Amiga Kommunity has become? I know it is your baby, but the Kommunity has been the most toxic retro community for many years.
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10 days is a long long long time to be offline for an update. Properly done it's hardly noticable.
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I honestly haven't paid enough attention to notice the community or how they're acting these days. It's hard to feel the toxicity when you're not standing in it waist deep. I'm simply pondering the squandered advertising revenue, but in retrospect, I'm not sure that it'd be all that much considering the dwindling size of the remaining community and the fact that it seems there's no interest left to "lead the charge".
Wayne
Well, I can understand needing several hours, and that may even end up being a day, based on availability of people, etc.... This is a hobby and not a primary job. But agreed that 10 days crosses that line into thinking some other territory. I still wonder if any of the old content will make it back, or if it's all down the memory hole. And if that's the case, is there any value left in Amiga.org at all?
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It's my guess that -- like most things Amiga -- either it's still in hobby mode where they'll get back to it when they can, they've decided to pull a John and just close it (their choice), or they more than likely ran into problems they didn't expect. It's a lot to port over decades of posts, users, etcetera...
I would;
1) Convert the forums (the absolutely most important part of the site) to this software
2) Convert the image galleries to the 3rd party addon software (or put up a new site)
3) Convert all the other little sections (links/etc) as possible (and if possible). I put these last because they're by far the most likely to have been neglected...
To me, past the forums, there's very little value to Amiga.org outside of the 20 years worth of forum information and even that I would consider pruning to wiki-esque pages for the sake of historical significance.
I just can't wait to hear how this is somehow all my fault (and it really is, as I built the monstrosity years ago)..
Wayne
Agreed completely. Back 12 or 13 years ago, when I was getting out of the Amiga scene, I mentally debated the best way to do something like that, as my going away present. Some sort of modular "All Amiga Knowledge" compendium that could be maintained. The Wiki idea was kind of new, back then, but something along that line. A giant "help file" for Amiga questions, filled with all the things we discovered and documented on the forums. Ultimately, something or another pissed me off, and I ended it with a shoulder shrug and just walked away, though.
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It is a bit more than 10 days now. And especially hobby sites should be easy to update, no things like high availability/high bandwith architectures, things like hadoop and messaging services, or dependencies and so on and so on you have to deal with as a professional developer.
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Well, the simplistic truth is that I have no idea what’s going on with the upgrade. Hell, I don’t have a clue who owns it now..
If they were following the better plan, they would have picked a ots package like xenforo and simply uploaded it then run the migration package. This should have been a couple of hours effort. If they went the Amiga route, they probably have some member or even developer writing a custom package and God only knows what kinds of Hell that would have created...
Timw will tell at this point...
If they were following the better plan, they would have picked a ots package like xenforo and simply uploaded it then run the migration package. This should have been a couple of hours effort. If they went the Amiga route, they probably have some member or even developer writing a custom package and God only knows what kinds of Hell that would have created...
Timw will tell at this point...
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I'm no webdev, but my knowledge of server migration is quite vast and this just reeks of "NFI". I know Karlos was quite prominent on the site still and he contributed quite a lot to the migration of a.org from Xoops to vBulletin, but knowing him like I do, I doubt he's had any part of this change as there is no way he'd let the site go down for such a long time.
The value of amiga.org was its name and logo. It is no accident that Amigakit's "Enhancer Package" prominently features the "amiga.org" logo (rather than the official "Amiga" branding), which they acquired along with the website.
Even though this may be hard to believe but there are currently numerous on-going legal disputes with regard to trademark registrations related to the "Amiga" name. Being as old as it is, amiga.org predates many of the companies that continue to fight each other. The amiga.org logo and name is a nice weapon to have in your IP war chest.