Anti-tax group members do not know much about taxes

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Source: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/18/tea-pa ... tlett.html

On March 16 the Tea Party crowd showed up for yet another demonstration on Capitol Hill... Curious about the factual knowledge these people have regarding the issues they are protesting,... David Frum enlisted some interns to interview as many Tea Partyers as possible on a couple of basic questions. ...

The first question that was asked concerned the size of government. Tea Partyers were asked how much the federal government gets in taxes as a percentage of the gross domestic product. According to Congressional Budget Office data, acceptable answers would be 6.4%, which is the percentage for federal income taxes; 12.7%, which would be for both income taxes and Social Security payroll taxes; or 14.8%, which would represent all federal taxes as a share of GDP in 2009. ...

Tuesday's Tea Party crowd, however, thought that federal taxes were almost three times as high as they actually are. The average response was 42% of GDP and the median 40%. ...

To follow up, Tea Partyers were asked how much they think a typical family making $50,000 per year pays in federal income taxes. The average response was $12,710, the median $10,000. In percentage terms this means a tax burden of between 20% and 25% of income. ...

According to calculations by the Joint Committee on Taxation, a congressional committee, tax filers with adjusted gross incomes between $40,000 and $50,000 have an average federal income tax burden of just 1.7%. ...

Even though the Tea Partyers were specifically asked about federal income taxes, it's possible that they were thinking about other federal taxes as well, such as payroll and excise taxes. According to the JCT, when all federal taxes are included, those earning between $40,000 and $50,000 have an average tax rate of 12.3%...

In short, no matter how one slices the data, the Tea Party crowd appears to believe that federal taxes are very considerably higher than they actually are...

Tea Partyers also seem to have a very distorted view of the direction of federal taxes. They were asked whether they are higher, lower or the same as when Barack Obama was inaugurated last year. More than two-thirds thought that taxes are higher today, and only 4% thought they were lower; the rest said they are the same.

As noted earlier, federal taxes are very considerably lower by every measure since Obama became president. ... In fact, 40% of Obama's stimulus package involved tax cuts. ... The Tax Policy Center ... estimates that close to 90% of all taxpayers got a tax cut last year and almost 100% of those in the $50,000 income range. ... No taxpayer anywhere in the country had his or her taxes increased as a consequence of Obama's policies.

It's hard to explain this divergence between perception and reality. Perhaps ... they just assume that because a Democrat is president that taxes must have gone up, because that's what Republicans say that Democrats always do. ...

For the record, David Frum, who organized the survey, and Bruce Bartlett, who wrote the article, are both long-time conservatives. Bartlett worked for the Reagan administration as an economist and was instrumental in the creation of "Reagonomics", i.e. Reagan's brand of supply-side economics.
 
JoBBo said:
For the record, David Frum, who organized the survey, and Bruce Bartlett, who wrote the article, are both long-time conservatives. Bartlett worked for the Reagan administration as an economist and was instrumental in the creation of "Reagonomics", i.e. Reagan's brand of supply-side economics.

No one calls David Frum and Bruce Bartlett conservatives, except MSNBC.
David Brooks spends his time admiring the crease of Obama’s pants leg.

The Tea Party is about responsible governance.
 
metalman said:
No one calls David Frum [...] conservatives,

Neo-conservative. That would be the same David Frum that co-wrote Dubya's 2002 State of the Union and coined the phrase "Axis of Evil" for the occasion.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
metalman said:
No one calls David Frum [...] conservatives,

Neo-conservative. That would be the same David Frum that co-wrote Dubya's 2002 State of the Union and coined the phrase "Axis of Evil" for the occasion.

Frum switched to views in 2008 to: "champion a responsive, responsible, inclusive, and environmentally-conscious conservatism". :roll:
 
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