Anti-Vaxers the dangerous new fad

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Good read.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/21/4767530/vaccine-deniers-inside-the-dumb-dangerous-new-fad


And in related news my two kids and I got our flu vaccines last night, as we have for the last couple of years. They, of course, live daily in close quarters to other children. Children tend to be a haven for disease. Myself, working for the Gov, are exposed daily to citizens of all walks of persuasion. And now that as a single Dad the costs to have sick kids have increased it makes some sense for something that cost me $0 to obtain. Sure the flu vaccine is only about 50-60% effective but it is the most effective thing on the marketplace.
 
ok, I think it's great that people are concerned about their kids health...but "Chicken pox parties"????

they believe crap like thiomersal will cause autism (with no evidence) but think MAKING kids sick is better???

WTF?!?!?!

I got measles and i guess chicken pox the usual way (back in the old days) just by going to school and catching it from some kid. It wasn't fun but I survived, obviously. WHY would you force your child to be sick? UGH
 
Some Doctors Won't See Patients With Anti-Vaccine Views

"Parents who choose not to give measles shots, they're not just putting their kids at risk, but they're also putting other kids at risk — especially kids in my waiting room," the Los Angeles pediatrician said.
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Northern California's Marin County has a high rate of people claiming personal belief exemptions. In 2012, Dr. Nelson Branco and his partners at a Marin County practice started turning away toddlers whose parents refused to make sure they received the measles vaccine.

Branco said 10 to 20 of his practice's 8,000 or so patients left after the change.
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a really good reason to stay away from Marin County if you have children.
 
Thanks for a reviving a 2 year old thread. It's sad to see we haven't yet learned from it.

One of the false charges the pro-disease group claims is that drug companies are making hand over first with vaccines. In California the 10 cases of measles medical costs were more than $100K. Not added in the worry of parents and the time lost from their job and to their businesses because they choose to not immunize their kids. If the 'medical-industrial complex' were really thinking and out to make money they'd remove vaccines from the marketplace and let all kids get the diseases. - $10K per family vs $100 clearly is much more money.

People you live in a society. There's some responsibility to not infect others with transmittable diseases. Measles is one disease where people can and do pass the virus on a couple of weeks before symptoms arrive. This along with it's 1/1000 death rate and other losses makes it good sense.

Pro-disease people are scientifically, medically, and socially wrong.
 
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It's just shocking how stupid and selfish people are.

They don't know what it was like years ago when many people died of diseases ALL the time.
 
Unfortunately, humans are short-sighted. When gas prices go down truck sales go up. It's probably a good time to buy a hybrid car because they're in low demand right now.

Vaccines are a victim of their own success. Anti-vaccers argue that there chance of measles is so low that it's okay for them not to be vaccinated. They appear to not accept the reasoning that measles is so low is because so many are vaccinated and if we want to keep it low then we have to keep the vaccinated #s as high as possible. Over the last 5 years we've seen pockets of outbreaks in what is primarily unvaccinated people. It's time we as a society get more serious about vaccinations. Personally, I like seeing those Drs who are saying if you're not vaccinated you can't come here unless you allow me to give you the vaccine. It's time to dump SkyDaddy says so excuses to not vaccinating and the only reason why not to would be due to medical reasons - allergies or immune compromised youth.
 
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metalman said:
When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have caused autism in thousands of kids, the government rushed to conceal the data - and to prevent parents from suing drug companies for their role in the epidemic
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Let's assume that it's not the case that this 'may have caused autism' but instead 'actually caused autism'. Assuming this in your favor it's clearly good that the US hasn't included mercury for the last 13 years in vaccines (except for some flu). Since it's no longer there then it can't be a reason any longer for not vaccinating.

Now back to reality of 2015 -- the data is poor to non-existent that the type and amount of mercury in vaccines caused any cases of autism. It's easy to say this because in the US and Europe over the last 13 years (more in Europe) that mercury has been gone the % and #s of the cases of autism has continued to climb. Giving anti-vaccers the favor that autism was caused by mercury statistically it's a small enough number that it's included in the statstical error factor of counting individuals with autism.

Rolling Stone - pseudoscience and bad journalism? http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/mercury-in-vaccines-and-autism-a-failed-hypothesis/ Signs point to yes.
 
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