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The things that are licensed are generally dangerous, getting the license requires the user to learn how to use the equipment and show they can use it and not injure other people.

You do not need a license to use a washing machine or oven, why should a computer be any different?

Very true. Computers are not physically dangerous. But look at all the infrastructure costs eaten up by hordes of unsecured and now zombied systems. According to this Information Week article the costs of SPAM (most of which is relayed through improperly secured machines) has reached $21.58 billion USD. Now, whether you believe that figure or not, is another story all together... But, unsecured machines are also used as proxies and attack vectors for other hacking. Not to mention the identity theft opened by the information contained on those systems. So it's pretty clear that unsecured machines ARE a problem and, en masse, DO CAUSE DAMAGE (far beyond an unbalanced washing machine or some burnt leftovers).

No, signing proves nothing. WindowsXP only runs signed drivers, it didn't help one little bit.

[Well, first off, XP does not required signed drivers. (It will give a warning message on installation, but, of course, users never read those...)] If you need a truly secure system that can not be compromised by user error, signing is everything. There is no way to identify (black-list) all hostile code mutations. Exercises by AntiVirus vendors have proven that time and again. So you're stuck dealing with a white-list of allowed software, and signatures for them.

No, the problem is that OS and software providers don't take security or reliability seriously enough. They ship products too early and leave us to suffer the consequences.

I don't disagree with your statement... All vendors could currently do more. The release cycle IS a problem. But I don't want a truly secured computer. I want a general-use computer. These two things, functionally, can never converge.
 
ilwrath said:
[Well, first off, XP does not required signed drivers. (It will give a warning message on installation, but, of course, users never read those...)] If you need a truly secure system that can not be compromised by user error, signing is everything. There is no way to identify (black-list) all hostile code mutations. Exercises by AntiVirus vendors have proven that time and again. So you're stuck dealing with a white-list of allowed software, and signatures for them.
Windows security is it a problem? Sure. In recent years we've seen more vulverabilities in Linux and the Mac but more exploits in Windows. The problem is the issue of monoculture. In plant species it's easier for invaders to do more harm if the crop is a single type. Windows market domination is similar once the invader finds a way in she now impact 80% of the desktops. Securing these systems is a huge amount more important than securing the Mac w/ the 10% desktops share. Attack some Macs and you have a minor impact. Attack Windows now you could bring economic standstill to businesses and governments.
 
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