Arizona passes tough illegal immigration law

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The more I hear about their tough stance on illegal immigrants and Sheriff Joe, the more I begin to like Arizona...

(Reuters) - Arizona lawmakers passed a controversial immigration bill on Monday requiring police in the state that borders Mexico to determine if people are in the United States illegally, a measure critics say is open to racial profiling.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63I6TU20100419
 
Wayne said:
The more I hear about their tough stance on illegal immigrants and Sheriff Joe, the more I begin to like Arizona...

(Reuters) - Arizona lawmakers passed a controversial immigration bill on Monday requiring police in the state that borders Mexico to determine if people are in the United States illegally, a measure critics say is open to racial profiling.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63I6TU20100419
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I like Sheriff Joe. He has been under fire by many "civil rights" groups for some time but he is very popular with the locals that he serves. He is just trying to find a way to do his job without waiting on the Feds to make up their minds. I personally don't see his work as illegal but I know others disagree.

Regards,
Ltstanfo
 
Be careful what you wish for!

Tit for Tat

Calif also gets a lot of their water from Arizona.
 
Fade said:
Be careful what you wish for!

Tit for Tat

Calif also gets a lot of their water from Arizona.
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I was talking to a couple of Americans yesterday about this. Yes Arizona could seriously hurt Calif, but the impression I was given was that this was a fight that whilst it would seriously hurt Calif, would utterly ruin Arizona.

As to the law itself... It just seems ripe for abuse.
 
the_leander said:
I was talking to a couple of Americans yesterday about this. Yes Arizona could seriously hurt Calif, but the impression I was given was that this was a fight that whilst it would seriously hurt Calif, would utterly ruin Arizona.
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The sticky widget is that the 'we won't supply power' threat likely could not be carried out. See California owns a few of the power plants located in Arizona. The corporation doesn't have the ability to cut off power to California.
 
Fade said:
Leander said
"As to the law itself... It just seems ripe for abuse."
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That is a strange comment coming from a citizen of the UK, where the potential for abuse is made extremely easy by just picking up the telephone to report on your neighbor, old girlfriend or anyone else that you decide needs punishing today.
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It's only strange if you presume someone has an idiotic, blind allegiance to any one country, just because they're from there.
 
Robert said:
Fade said:
Leander said
"As to the law itself... It just seems ripe for abuse."
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That is a strange comment coming from a citizen of the UK, where the potential for abuse is made extremely easy by just picking up the telephone to report on your neighbor, old girlfriend or anyone else that you decide needs punishing today.
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It's only strange if you presume someone has an idiotic, blind allegiance to any one country, just because they're from there.
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We have a winner.

I will call BS just as happily on the UK as I will any other country.

Fade, I could point to you any number of ill thought out, authoritarian bullshit that made it into the statute books, shit I've bitched about them often enough and even protested them irl a few times.

Police and councils using anti terror legislation on routine matters that have nothing to do with terrorism is a good example and a fairly clear starting point. The Digital Economy Act which got forced through just before Labour got booted out is another piece of trash that should never have made it had it been given proper scrutiny. The Biometric database and ID card scheme - if ever you wanted to become someone else within the system in a completely undetectable way now you can. Restriction of trial by jury, relaxation of habius corpus, anything to do with the current libel laws. And so on and so on and so on.

IMHO the test for any bill (a bill is a law that hasn't yet been passed) under examination should be: "How could this law be abused?"

Apply the above test to the law in question.
 
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