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Seems that, at least this time, Israeli assassins are no longer using Canadian and New Zealand passports to ply their craft.

Using other countries' passports is fairly common but it does besmirch and endanger those who carry the passport legitimately.
 
This has become a big deal.
The UK is quite rightly upset about the Mossad assassins using British passports and MPs are demanding answers.

The CBC mentions it and of course Canada is still upset about the Mossad using Canadian passports as mentioned in this story.

Innocent people are also effected such as the guy mentioned here (also security footage of the team in the hotel in this article).

Here's an article about Mossad assassins written by the guy who wrote the book on them (Gideon's Spies).

There are some who say that this sort of thing is just fine - I mean, kosher but remember, the Mossad is the same bunch who "assassinated" a waiter in Lillehammer thinking he was someone else
as he walked back from a cinema to his apartment with his pregnant wife.
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Israel has since pretty much confirmed its involvement with a non-denial.
 
I don't think Canada is that upset, or at least, Harpo isn't. One of his dimwitted ministers just said something about any attack on Israel will be seen as an attack on Canada. :roll:
 
Glaucus said:
I don't think Canada is that upset, or at least, Harpo isn't.
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It's true. Israel has been working very hard on our government. They wouldn't even let Ignatieff be Liberal leader until he toned down his criticism of the Israeli war on Lebanon.

But at the time of the attempted assassination using Canadian passports it was a major deal.

One of his dimwitted ministers just said something about any attack on Israel will be seen as an attack on Canada. :roll:
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And that was borderline scandalous - because even though we know it's Harper's position it's still not a popular opinion in the world and not even particularly popular in Canada. The whole Israel hugging thing usually has to be kept on a lower level. People feel uncomfortable siding with the aggressor.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
But at the time of the attempted assassination using Canadian passports it was a major deal.
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I know, I just wanted to take a shot at Harper. :mrgreen: Of course if Harper was PM back then he would have only been upset that they didn't use Air Canada to fly the hit team into position.

[quote:1pbbdnuh] One of his dimwitted ministers just said something about any attack on Israel will be seen as an attack on Canada. :roll:
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And that was borderline scandalous - because even though we know it's Harper's position it's still not a popular opinion in the world and not even particularly popular in Canada. The whole Israel hugging thing usually has to be kept on a lower level. People feel uncomfortable siding with the aggressor.[/quote:1pbbdnuh]But even if you know nothing about Israel, such a statement makes very little sense to Canadians. Aside from NATO nations which we are obligated to help defend, what does Canada get out of defending Israel? With the US you can at least argue that Israel provides the US with some strategic value, but it's not quite so with Canada. Or at least not on a level that's open and transparent to the public. More likely then not, this close relationship with Israel servers Harper'$ personal intere$t$ much more so then it serves Canada's. Typical Harper I would say.
 
Glaucus said:
Hamas claims Fatah rivals involved in Dubai killing
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Mossad tipped of MI6.

It seems that Mossad, Fatah & Hamas were involved in the following way.

Dubai has two Palestinians in custody apparently. Mossad supplied the hit team but the Palestinians were the bait. They were both ex-Hamas who had defected to Fatah and worked as double agents.

This will not go well for Fatah, I think. Many Palestinians already see Abbas as an Israeli stooge who is working more for his own power than for the benefit of the Palestinians.
 
Hmmm... I think we're gonna see all sorts of crazy fallout here but very little in terms of truth. At first it seemed like a slam dunk Israeli hit, but as time goes on I have to admit there's growing doubt. I think Hamas may have screwed up because until now everyone was pointing the finger at Israel and Israel alone. Now we have more suspects. It would not surprise me if Hamas itself cooperated in his murder. Even if fatah did work together with Israel things get murkier. In the end, the Palestinians will be divided along partisan lines and Israel will score a double victory. Hamas should have dealt with it's Fatah suspicions privately and just kept the pressure on their most dangerous and hated enemy; Israel.
 
Glaucus said:
I think Hamas may have screwed up because until now everyone was pointing the finger at Israel and Israel alone.
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These Palestinians were picked up right away I seem to remember and have been part of the story since day one but the outrage was directed towards Israel because they actually have a sovereign state.
In the end, the Palestinians will be divided along partisan lines and Israel will score a double victory. Hamas should have dealt with it's Fatah suspicions privately and just kept the pressure on their most dangerous and hated enemy; Israel.
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Palestinians already ARE divided. Dividing Palestinians is part of the reason that Israel funded Hamas back in the day when they were just a fringe religious group. They broke the unity of the PLO. When Hamas took over the unifying role of the PLO then Israel backed Fatah. Hamas and Fatah do usually keep their score settling between themselves without involving any other parties -or rather, Hamas does. Fatah is often percieved as cooperating with Israel.

As to the mud in the water, don't forget that Israel has enormous ownership stakes in Western media. The background - who know what and who spoke to whom etc seem to have laid things pretty bare. Interpol is now involved with arrest warrants out for the suspects. It's now a matter for intelligence departments and embassies to hash out and they will be making their deals on self interest, not on the media. The media is just for public opinion - to keep it tamped down. The last thing those that rubn things need is the public getting involved.
 
Britain expels Israeli diplomat:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8582518.stm

Foreign Secretary David Miliband told the Commons there were "compelling reasons" to believe Israel was responsible for the passport "misuse".
He said: "The government takes this matter extremely seriously. Such misuse of British passports is intolerable."
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Interesting choice of words from Miliband.
I can't help thinking that recent, mild U.S. criticism of Israel has encouraged the U.K. here.
 
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