Billionaire invests half million to keep labour costs down

yeah, saw that on TV. no surprise that Walker is a scumbag

I mean he got caught revealing that he was in the koch bros pocket a few years ago
 
The more I hear about Walker, the more like really like the guy!
 
Speelgoedmannetje said:
You like not being paid for your work? Wait, I'll get me whip, this cotton field won't pluck itself!
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there are lots of "right to work" states, workers still get paid :rolleyes:

Cotton doesn't grow in Wisconsin,
and where cotton does grow there are machines called "cotton pickers" that do the work
 
metalman said:
there are lots of "right to work" states, workers still get paid :rolleyes:

Cotton doesn't grow in Wisconsin,
and where cotton does grow there are machines called "cotton pickers" that do the work
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Before I started comedy, I used to work at McDonald's making minimum wage. You know what that means when someone pays you minimum wage? You know what your boss was trying to say? It's like, "Hey if I could pay you less, I would, but it's against the law."-chris rock

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0255574/quotes
 
Speelgoedmannetje said:
You like not being paid for your work? Wait, I'll get me whip, this cotton field won't pluck itself!
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Just where did Walker stop people from getting paid for their work? You do know the only thing they put off limits in contract negotiations is the state employee benefits package, unions still have the right to bargain on wage issues with the state. See what happened is the union created a health care insurance coverage company and then forced governments (city/county/state) to use it vs private insurance. The union were grossing enormous amounts of profit by selling policies at a far greater price to the governments as the employee unions required the government to use the union health care system in their labor contract agreements. Nice scam, till that evil Walker busted it up and cost the unions and it's fat cat executive officers millions in lost plunder, err, profits. Now local school boards have extra millions to spend on students, vs the union's own health care insurance company as they opted for private insurance companies.
 
robert l. bentham said:
Before I started comedy, I used to work at McDonald's making minimum wage. You know what that means when someone pays you minimum wage? You know what your boss was trying to say? It's like, "Hey if I could pay you less, I would, but it's against the law."-chris rock
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You should be thanking McDonalds for actually finding a way to give millions of stupid people gainful employment and still make money.

McDonalds hires one smart programmer to program their cash registers, then when you order a "big mac" all the employee has to be trained to do is press the key with a picture of the "big mac"

the employee also has to learn the phrase "would you like fries with your order?"
 
Dammy said:
Just where did Walker stop people from getting paid for their work? You do know the only thing they put off limits in contract negotiations is the state employee benefits package, unions still have the right to bargain on wage issues with the state.
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How magnanimous of them.

Dammy said:
See what happened is the union created a health care insurance coverage company and then forced governments (city/county/state) to use it vs private insurance. The union were grossing enormous amounts of profit by selling policies at a far greater price to the governments as the employee unions required the government to use the union health care system in their labor contract agreements.
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You have proof of course that this coverage company was more costly than comparable offerings from the private sector, right?

Also, way to make the case for single payer healthcare.

Dammy said:
Nice scam, till that evil Walker busted it up and cost the unions and it's fat cat executive officers millions in lost plunder, err, profits.
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Yeah, now the private insurance companies will get that plunder instead. Score one for the big guys!

Whoopee!

Dammy said:
Now local school boards have extra millions to spend on students, vs the union's own health care insurance company as they opted for private insurance companies.
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Again, you can make no such claim until you provide evidence that the union run insurance was more costly than comparable health insurance plans. Scrapping the insurance and replacing it with the cheapest thing going that offers no real coverage at all is not a saving.
 
the_leander said:
You have proof of course that this coverage company was more costly than comparable offerings from the private sector, right?
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health insurance from WEA Trust was $8700 higher per teacher policy than the same policy awarded by competitive biding this year in 52 school districts in Wisconsin. The WEA trust initially told school districts that premiums would rise 8% this year, however it reduced its premiums 3.3% in non competitive bidding districts to maintain its contracts

Companies submitting competitive bids for the insurance contracts showed a 7% decrease in premiums compared to this years discounted WEA Trust policy
 
metalman said:
Companies submitting competitive bids for the insurance contracts showed a 7% decrease in premiums compared to this years discounted WEA Trust policy
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Most private insurers have better cost controls. They tend not to feel any obligation to pay out to the policy holders when they get sick.
 
metalman said:
You should be thanking McDonalds for actually finding a way to give millions of stupid people gainful employment and still make money.

McDonalds hires one smart programmer to program their cash registers, then when you order a "big mac" all the employee has to be trained to do is press the key with a picture of the "big mac"

the employee also has to learn the phrase "would you like fries with your order?"
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Wow. With companies like McDonalds around you'd have to be almost completely brain dead to still be unemployed.
 
Dammy said:
The more I hear about Walker, the more like really like the guy!
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Yeah. I guess you'd love to walk into a union shop where guys are making 25 an hour or more and say you'll do the job for twenty three. But you'd have the job for a week before someone else replaced you for 20 and it'd pay less the week after. Soon you'd be complaining about all the immigrants who are working your job for a buck an hour and there'd be no-one making enough money to spend into the local economy. Pretty quick you get a few super rich guys who own the companies and everyone else is poor and practically a slave. That's the kind of third world economy you get when people can't stick together to protect themselves from the elites. Divide and conquer is the motto of the elites - they can't stand people standing up to them and do whatever it takes to undermine any organization that might stand in their way.

You may cheer that behaviour from the elites but you will never be one of them, you will only be one of their victims, just like the rest of us.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
You may cheer that behaviour from the elites but you will never be one of them, you will only be one of their victims, just like the rest of us.
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but... but ... dammy and metalman both know that just like rudolph;(who let his inner self shine thereby proving his value to the elite reindeer that he was worthy), they too will shine so brilliantly that no elite would dare pass them by....
 
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