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Clues:
Old Major => Marx & Lenin
Snowball => Trotsky
Napoleon => Stalin
Squealer => Molotov


“Animal Farm,” hmmm — isn’t that Orwell’s political parable of farm animals where a bunch of pigs hog up all the economic resources, tell the other animals they need all the food because they’re the makers and then scare up the prospect of a phony bogeyman every time their greed is challenged? Sounds familiar. Hey conservatives — it’s time to stop the childish Cold War name calling and deal with facts. Either that or be relegated to the kids’ and the crazy uncle table at holiday dinners.
 
Wow, she missed the mark there. The conservatives ARE the crazy uncles at the holiday dinners!
 
metalman said:
Clues:
Old Major => Marx & Lenin
Snowball => Trotsky
Napoleon => Stalin
Squealer => Molotov
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Right. And the whole thing is a metaphor. All those guys are dead. All the guys playing the game these days have different names and operate in a different environment, but the principles of power and the game remains the same.
 
You providing Krystal talking points now Fluffy?

Molotov did get a cocktail named in his honor, for his hard work in reporting the "current" truth


No, it’s not

“Animal Farm” is about how utopian left-wing solutions to concentrated power, always produce even more dangerous and oppressive power concentrations, in the name of “progress” and “equality,” than the capitalist system it replaces

At the end of the book the farm has devolved into a dictatorship where the animals toil harder, longer, and for much less food than they received under the human masters before the "revolution"

What is truly impressive, :rolleyes: is that Krystal couldn’t locate even one appropriate reference to inequality of capitalism in the works of Orwell, a lifelong socialist.

More appropriate >>> "The Road to Wigan Pier"
 
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FluffyMcDeath said:
Right. And the whole thing is a metaphor. All those guys are dead. All the guys playing the game these days have different names and operate in a different environment, but the principles of power and the game remains the same.
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Next you'll be telling me that "1984" was really a love story
 
metalman said:
You providing Krystal talking points now Fluffy?
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Would be nice, but alas, this one was too obvious. Doubtless slightly over 50% of the population thought the very same thing.
“Animal Farm” is about how utopian left-wing solutions to concentrated power, always produce even more dangerous and oppressive power concentrations, in the name of “progress” and “equality,” than the capitalist system it replaces
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Obviously you have no idea. The fact that they were "left wing" in their own words is almost entirely irrelevant - concentration of power is the opposite of the left wing, and Marxism, but it is the natural tendency of human societies. "All animals are equal" is an unsustainable ideal that is undermined by self serving pigs and eventually trampled to oblivion under their filthy trotters.

America also had a revolution and an idealism similarly based in ideas of allowing people a voice in their own governance - one man, one vote. Nowadays America has one dollar one vote and the US has become a land of nobles and inheritocracies ruling over peasants just like the Old World the settlers fled.
At the end of the book the farm has devolved into a dictatorship where the animals toil harder, longer, and for much less food than they received under the human masters before the "revolution"
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You say it, but you still can't see it. Interesting.
What is truly impressive, :rolleyes: is that Krystal couldn’t locate even one appropriate reference to inequality of capitalism in the works of Orwell, a lifelong socialist.
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Why are you posting links to books that people can read without paying? Are you a communist?
 
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metalman said:
Next you'll be telling me that "1984" was really a love story
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Ah, Hollywood. Bless their silly woollen heads.
Others of a more pedantic bent will argue that since 1984 is set in what is clearly London in 1984 then it can't possibly be an allegory for what is happening in any other countries today.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
The fact that they were "left wing" in their own words is almost entirely irrelevant - concentration of power is the opposite of the left wing, and Marxism, but it is the natural tendency of human societies. "All animals are equal" is an unsustainable ideal that is undermined by self serving pigs and eventually trampled to oblivion under their filthy trotters.
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Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure! On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?
--Squealer, Animal Farm
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Ah yes. The "New" Criticism, where we take a literary work completely out of context

You working at the Ministry of Truth now?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
... and instead examine the universal themes it addresses.
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the universal theme of animal farm is "all animals are equal" (socialism)

From Old Majors speech inspiring the Animal Farm Revolution, "You, Boxer, the very day that those great muscles of yours lose their power, Jones will send you to the knacker, he will cut your throat and boil you down for the fox-hounds."

The original commandments are:
  1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
  2. Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
  3. No animal shall wear clothes.
  4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.
  5. No animal shall drink alcohol.
  6. No animal shall kill any other animal.
  7. All animals are equal.

After winning the revolution, Animal Farm is where all animals live together with no humans to oppress or control them.

Years later, Boxer, the animal with the most strength, dedication, and loyalty to Animal Farm, is sold to the glue factory to buy more liquor for the pigs, when he collapses from overwork. Squeeler then reports to the other animals, that Boxer died in peace, praising the Animal Rebellion with his last breath.

Through Squeeler's revisions, the commandments have become
"Four legs good, two legs better! "

Mollie was the smart one, she left for another farm
 
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