Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voodoo

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

faethor said:
Seriously. The evidence the planet is experiencing a warming climate than there are concerning BigFeet existence.

I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

faethor said:
Seriously. The evidence the planet is experiencing a warming climate than there are concerning BigFeet existence.

I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

redrumloa said:
I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
One point in time is hard to make a trend. While this Dec, Jan, Feb in the US was the coldest since 2000, so not a decade, for Australia it was the coldest in the decade. Sibera saw some cold record sets in the last 150 years. However, this July was the 5th warmest ever recorded in the US. Along with this came a handful of record setting heat.
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

redrumloa said:
I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
One point in time is hard to make a trend. While this Dec, Jan, Feb in the US was the coldest since 2000, so not a decade, for Australia it was the coldest in the decade. Sibera saw some cold record sets in the last 150 years. However, this July was the 5th warmest ever recorded in the US. Along with this came a handful of record setting heat.
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

redrumloa said:
I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
One point in time is hard to make a trend. While this Dec, Jan, Feb in the US was the coldest since 2000, so not a decade, for Australia it was the coldest in the decade. Sibera saw some cold record sets in the last 150 years. However, this July was the 5th warmest ever recorded in the US. Along with this came a handful of record setting heat.
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

redrumloa said:
I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
One point in time is hard to make a trend. While this Dec, Jan, Feb in the US was the coldest since 2000, so not a decade, for Australia it was the coldest in the decade. Sibera saw some cold record sets in the last 150 years. However, this July was the 5th warmest ever recorded in the US. Along with this came a handful of record setting heat.
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

redrumloa said:
I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
One point in time is hard to make a trend. While this Dec, Jan, Feb in the US was the coldest since 2000, so not a decade, for Australia it was the coldest in the decade. Sibera saw some cold record sets in the last 150 years. However, this July was the 5th warmest ever recorded in the US. Along with this came a handful of record setting heat.
 
Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

redrumloa said:
I've never stated the planet was not warming. I just don't believe we will see run away, Florida will be under 30 feet of water, we all will die, warming because Al Gore said so. the planet is warmer than 200 years ago, because there was a "little ice age" 200 years ago. As a matter of fact wasn't this last winter the coldest in 10+ years, with ice cap regaining any and all loss in the last 10+ years?
One point in time is hard to make a trend. While this Dec, Jan, Feb in the US was the coldest since 2000, so not a decade, for Australia it was the coldest in the decade. Sibera saw some cold record sets in the last 150 years. However, this July was the 5th warmest ever recorded in the US. Along with this came a handful of record setting heat.
 
redrumloa said:
Glaucus said:
Actually, they predicted that last winter would be one of the coldest. They also predicted that this summer would be very wet. Even though I hoped they'd be wrong on both accounts, they were bang on. And that was predicted by the same scientists that predict that long term global warming/climate change.

There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made,

No, Jim, we all *know* it's much more complex than that and there are a number of factors. We just think man plays a part.

It is not warming because of man, it is warming because we just emerged from the Little Ice Age.

Therein lies the problem; your black and white, one extreme or the other, goodies and baddies-type outlook.
 
redrumloa said:
Glaucus said:
Actually, they predicted that last winter would be one of the coldest. They also predicted that this summer would be very wet. Even though I hoped they'd be wrong on both accounts, they were bang on. And that was predicted by the same scientists that predict that long term global warming/climate change.

There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made,

No, Jim, we all *know* it's much more complex than that and there are a number of factors. We just think man plays a part.

It is not warming because of man, it is warming because we just emerged from the Little Ice Age.

Therein lies the problem; your black and white, one extreme or the other, goodies and baddies-type outlook.
 
redrumloa said:
Glaucus said:
Actually, they predicted that last winter would be one of the coldest. They also predicted that this summer would be very wet. Even though I hoped they'd be wrong on both accounts, they were bang on. And that was predicted by the same scientists that predict that long term global warming/climate change.

There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made,

No, Jim, we all *know* it's much more complex than that and there are a number of factors. We just think man plays a part.

It is not warming because of man, it is warming because we just emerged from the Little Ice Age.

Therein lies the problem; your black and white, one extreme or the other, goodies and baddies-type outlook.
 
redrumloa said:
Glaucus said:
Actually, they predicted that last winter would be one of the coldest. They also predicted that this summer would be very wet. Even though I hoped they'd be wrong on both accounts, they were bang on. And that was predicted by the same scientists that predict that long term global warming/climate change.

There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made,

No, Jim, we all *know* it's much more complex than that and there are a number of factors. We just think man plays a part.

It is not warming because of man, it is warming because we just emerged from the Little Ice Age.

Therein lies the problem; your black and white, one extreme or the other, goodies and baddies-type outlook.
 
redrumloa said:
Glaucus said:
Actually, they predicted that last winter would be one of the coldest. They also predicted that this summer would be very wet. Even though I hoped they'd be wrong on both accounts, they were bang on. And that was predicted by the same scientists that predict that long term global warming/climate change.

There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made,

No, Jim, we all *know* it's much more complex than that and there are a number of factors. We just think man plays a part.

It is not warming because of man, it is warming because we just emerged from the Little Ice Age.

Therein lies the problem; your black and white, one extreme or the other, goodies and baddies-type outlook.
 
redrumloa said:
Glaucus said:
Actually, they predicted that last winter would be one of the coldest. They also predicted that this summer would be very wet. Even though I hoped they'd be wrong on both accounts, they were bang on. And that was predicted by the same scientists that predict that long term global warming/climate change.

There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made,

No, Jim, we all *know* it's much more complex than that and there are a number of factors. We just think man plays a part.

It is not warming because of man, it is warming because we just emerged from the Little Ice Age.

Therein lies the problem; your black and white, one extreme or the other, goodies and baddies-type outlook.
 
redrumloa said:
There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made, while the other side think that is crap.

One side thinks it's all man-made or all natural and since it isn't all man-made it must be all natural and the other side understands that it is a combination and spend their time trying to quantify the many contributions to the phenomenon.
 
redrumloa said:
There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made, while the other side think that is crap.

One side thinks it's all man-made or all natural and since it isn't all man-made it must be all natural and the other side understands that it is a combination and spend their time trying to quantify the many contributions to the phenomenon.
 
redrumloa said:
There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made, while the other side think that is crap.

One side thinks it's all man-made or all natural and since it isn't all man-made it must be all natural and the other side understands that it is a combination and spend their time trying to quantify the many contributions to the phenomenon.
 
redrumloa said:
There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made, while the other side think that is crap.

One side thinks it's all man-made or all natural and since it isn't all man-made it must be all natural and the other side understands that it is a combination and spend their time trying to quantify the many contributions to the phenomenon.
 
redrumloa said:
There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made, while the other side think that is crap.

One side thinks it's all man-made or all natural and since it isn't all man-made it must be all natural and the other side understands that it is a combination and spend their time trying to quantify the many contributions to the phenomenon.
 
redrumloa said:
There lies the problem mike. You all think global warming is man made, while the other side think that is crap.

One side thinks it's all man-made or all natural and since it isn't all man-made it must be all natural and the other side understands that it is a combination and spend their time trying to quantify the many contributions to the phenomenon.
 
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