Copenhagen Climate Summit - Oh The Irony

[ltstanfo]

From The Telegraph:

"Copenhagen is preparing for the climate change summit that will produce as much carbon dioxide as a town the size of Middlesbrough."

"Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. "We haven't got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand," she says. "We're having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden."

"And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? "Five,"

"The airport says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets during the peak period alone, so far over its capacity that the planes will have to fly off to regional airports – or to Sweden – to park, returning to Copenhagen to pick up their VIP passengers."

"At least the sex will be C02-neutral. According to the organisers, the eleven-day conference, including the participants' travel, will create a total of 41,000 tonnes of "carbon dioxide equivalent", equal to the amount produced over the same period by a city the size of Middlesbrough."

And from The New York Post:

"That is the amount of carbon dioxide produced by more than 60 of the world's smaller countries in an entire year -- combined."


Way to lead by example (Global Warming) leaders! :roflmao:

In all seriousness however, I did find the comment in the telegraph article interesting:

"Instead of swift and modest reductions in carbon – say, two per cent a year, starting next year – for which they could possibly be held accountable, the politicians will bandy around grandiose targets of 80-per-cent-plus by 2050, by which time few of the leaders at Copenhagen will even be alive, let alone still in office.

Even if they had agreed anything binding, past experience suggests that the participants would not, in fact, feel bound by it. Most countries – Britain excepted – are on course to break the modest pledges they made at the last major climate summit, in Kyoto. "

So, in the spirit of the season, I say God Bless Them One and All. They certainly seem to need all the help they can get. :roflmao: :wink:

Regards,
Ltstanfo

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

I think these kind of arguments take down the discussion. The discussion should be about the results of these conferences.
I mean, AFAIK the end result is all together they will invest 7 billion in the green stuff. Now that's what I call a drop of water on a hot plate. Especially considering the amounts of money they were willing to spend on the bailout :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[ltstanfo]

I think these kind of arguments take down the discussion. The discussion should be about the results of these conferences.
I mean, AFAIK the end result is all together they will invest 7 billion in the green stuff. Now that's what I call a drop of water on a hot plate. Especially considering the amounts of money they were willing to spend on the bailout :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

What did you expect?

Your point is well made Speel but I disagree on your response to my original post "tak(ing) down the discussion". While I admit that I am enjoying watching the so called "climate savers" (my choice of words) do their talking, they certainly aren't "walking the walk" (as it were). How much money and emissions could have been saved had they flown commercial versus private aircraft? Likewise with all those limos didn't anyone think to want more hybrids / electric vehicles? What about car-pooling to and from the summit? I realize that the potential money saved getting to, around and from the summit would be a pittance compared to the 7 billion you mention but if these people are really serious, shouldn't they be trying to set the example? How can they expect others to follow, let alone treat them seriously if they aren't willing to lead by example?

Oh... the irony..... :roflmao:

Regards,
Ltstanfo

 

[redrumloa]

Global Warming elitist were never about saving the environment, but rather squeezing as much money and misery out of the serfs as possible. The top 1% need more money.

 

[Robert]

Global Warming elitist were never about saving the environment, but rather squeezing as much money and misery out of the serfs as possible. The top 1% need more money.

I actually agree with this, to a point, but just because it's being exploited for financial gain doesn't mean the whole situation has been invented.

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

I think these kind of arguments take down the discussion. The discussion should be about the results of these conferences.
I mean, AFAIK the end result is all together they will invest 7 billion in the green stuff. Now that's what I call a drop of water on a hot plate. Especially considering the amounts of money they were willing to spend on the bailout :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

What did you expect?

Your point is well made Speel but I disagree on your response to my original post "tak(ing) down the discussion". While I admit that I am enjoying watching the so called "climate savers" (my choice of words) do their talking, they certainly aren't "walking the walk" (as it were). How much money and emissions could have been saved had they flown commercial versus private aircraft? Likewise with all those limos didn't anyone think to want more hybrids / electric vehicles? What about car-pooling to and from the summit? I realize that the potential money saved getting to, around and from the summit would be a pittance compared to the 7 billion you mention but if these people are really serious, shouldn't they be trying to set the example? How can they expect others to follow, let alone treat them seriously if they aren't willing to lead by example?

Oh... the irony..... :roflmao:

Regards,
Ltstanfo

While I do agree it's not a good example and it should be discussed, I think it shouldn't be the essence of the discussion, and it is close to mudslinging. Conferences are done this way, and it is very hard to organise it in a greener way, unfortunately, so to me the end result is what matters. The 7 billion dollar offer is a typical example of greenwashing. And it utterly disgusts me as you might have noticed

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Global Warming elitist were never about saving the environment, but rather squeezing as much money and misery out of the serfs as possible. The top 1% need more money.

I actually agree with this, to a point, but just because it's being exploited for financial gain doesn't mean the whole situation has been invented.

Any other way other than the financial gain way is a communist way, isn't it?

 

[ltstanfo]

And now.... enter the clowns. This "summit" just lost any shred of credibility that it may have ever had (to me). You go Hugo! Workers or the world unite (in global warming)! :roflmao:

I'm done with this topic

Regards,
Ltstanfo

 

[metalman]

And now.... enter the clowns. This "summit" just lost any shred of credibility that it may have ever had (to me). You go Hugo! Workers or the world unite (in global warming)! :roflmao:

I'm done with this topic

Regards,
Ltstanfo

"That was totally unexpected, and by unexpected I mean, TOTALLY EXPECTED!" exclaims Heinz Doofenshmirtz

( FYI: Phinneas & Ferb reference)