Court blocks 'Mein Kampf' excerpts from being published

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A civil court in Munich has blocked a British publisher's plans to print excerpts of Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" in Germany later this month.

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[redrumloa]

Topper.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Just another case of copyright being used to hide information - and forbidden information is desired much more than free information.

Wonder if they will extend copyright to prevent the rights expiring in 2015.

 

[cecilia]

my mother read Mein Kampf in German (she majored in german and other languages) and it didn't turn her into a Nazi. how about that?

 

[the_leander]

my mother read Mein Kampf in German (she majored in german and other languages) and it didn't turn her into a Nazi. how about that?

Read an English translation a few years back. It remains one of the most illogical, incoherent collections of bilious shite I've ever had the misfortunes to read, including a number of self published works. Possibly only topped by the manifesto written by that Norwegian gunman late last year...

Good for a laugh or if you wished to gain insight into the mind of a mentalist in the making.

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

my mother read Mein Kampf in German (she majored in german and other languages) and it didn't turn her into a Nazi. how about that?

You don't understand. It's a very touchy subject in Germany (and the countries it occupied). Think about the message you give when someone suffered from that horrible war and then later to see a billboard like this: "Now Mein Kampf for only 29,99$ save 20%!"

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

You don't understand. It's a very touchy subject in Germany (and the countries it occupied). Think about the message you give when someone suffered from that horrible war and then later to see a billboard like this: "Now Mein Kampf for only 29,99$ save 20%!"

Touchy as in when you are in the deep South and you see a billboard for "Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion save 20%" or when you are in the deep south and you see a billboard for Harry Potter etc. There are people that are still celebrate military victories from 2000 years ago and who get touchy about how a temple of theirs got knocked down 4000 years ago. At a certain point history is history and unless you keep primary sources then history become mythology. Hitler wasn't the devil and Churchill was no angel and the real politik and forces at work then are similar to what is at work today. Sometimes people get touchy about reality the way they like sausages but can't look into a slaughter house. I'm not very sympathetic to the "touchy" argument. Maybe kids deserve some consideration but at some point you become an adult and have to look at the world the way it is.

 

[cecilia]

Read an English translation a few years back. It remains one of the most illogical, incoherent collections of bilious shite I've ever had the misfortunes to read, including a number of self published works. Possibly only topped by the manifesto written by that Norwegian gunman late last year...

Good for a laugh or if you wished to gain insight into the mind of a mentalist in the making.

yeah, my mom's review was similar. She said Hitler repeated himself often.

 

[cecilia]

You don't understand. It's a very touchy subject in Germany (and the countries it occupied). Think about the message you give when someone suffered from that horrible war and then later to see a billboard like this: "Now Mein Kampf for only 29,99$ save 20%!"

well, I understand up to a point.
After all, parts of my family were living in Europe during those years. There were (still) unopened letters that had been sent during the war and then returned because there was no way to deliver them because the Nazi's were occupying. The fact that these unopened letters were kept says a lot about the emotions felt during those times.

Not to mention the relative who was captured and sent to a Nazi factory....he eventually escaped but missed years of his little girl growing up .....so, is there lots of pain and guilt for some people? I'm sure.

But I firmly believe that the truth will set you free. When I was growing up I made it my business to learn as much about Hitler and the history of that day. I wanted to understand what my family went through. I wanted to know why it happened because I never want it to happen again.

acting as if Hitler never existed isn't going to make reality go away. Blinders never helped anyone heal. I certainly am not going to rub their faces in it but I think eventually people have to come to terms with the truth.

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Touchy as in when you are in the deep South and you see a billboard for "Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion save 20%" or when you are in the deep south and you see a billboard for Harry Potter etc. There are people that are still celebrate military victories from 2000 years ago and who get touchy about how a temple of theirs got knocked down 4000 years ago. At a certain point history is history and unless you keep primary sources then history become mythology. Hitler wasn't the devil and Churchill was no angel and the real politik and forces at work then are similar to what is at work today. Sometimes people get touchy about reality the way they like sausages but can't look into a slaughter house. I'm not very sympathetic to the "touchy" argument. Maybe kids deserve some consideration but at some point you become an adult and have to look at the world the way it is.

I'm not talking about being touchy, I'm talking about people actually being hurt by. Big, big huge difference but this extensive 'liberal' thinking puts on everybody the same coat while it just doesn't fit for some.

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

But I firmly believe that the truth will set you free. When I was growing up I made it my business to learn as much about Hitler and the history of that day. I wanted to understand what my family went through. I wanted to know why it happened because I never want it to happen again.

Libraries have a copy of Mein Kampf here. You can read it there, on terms.

acting as if Hitler never existed isn't going to make reality go away. Blinders never helped anyone heal. I certainly am not going to rub their faces in it but I think eventually people have to come to terms with the truth.

IIRC Napoleon said a newspaper can be more harmful then a thousand guns. Something a person like Murdoch knows and uses. Mein Kampf can nowadays maybe not taken seriously anymore by most people, but that's just because they had good education.

 

[faethor]

@The_Leander,
I have an original pressing in Deutsche (german) and English translation. I thought the English translation was a mess but digging through the German I gathered enough to realized the original is the mess. My thought was they are going to force people to read poorly constructed books? Don't they know people have much better things to do.

 

[cecilia]

Libraries have a copy of Mein Kampf here. You can read it there, on terms.

IIRC Napoleon said a newspaper can be more harmful then a thousand guns. Something a person like Murdoch knows and uses. Mein Kampf can nowadays maybe not taken seriously anymore by most people, but that's just because they had good education.

the fact that people got conned by the scum murdock shows how people have NOT learned the lesson at all.

people have walked around in fear for decades instead of confronting the facts head on.

and we see the results. very unfortunate. The truth will set you free