Cradle of Filth says IRS may keep EU bands away from the USA

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Anti-American bands, such as CoF, can feel to stay across the pond. Oh Americans tax us. In Summary -- We come to America and make money, pay employees, and now they want to tax the money we took from Americans before we bring it back to the UK, so unfair. Dani Filth another millionaire wanker that simply wants to take from America and not give back!
 
faethor said:
Anti-American bands, such as CoF, can feel to stay across the pond. Oh Americans tax us. In Summary -- We come to America and make money, pay employees, and now they want to tax the money we took from Americans before we bring it back to the UK, so unfair. Dani Filth another millionaire wanker that simply wants to take from America and not give back!

I'm not up on this new musician tax, you have a link?

I'm not exactly a huge Cradle of Filth fan, but is Dani really a millionaire? I didn't think CoF was all that big and CDs don't sell the numbers they used to.
 
redrumloa said:
I'm not up on this new musician tax, you have a link?
IMO it doesn't matter. It's not his country. He wants to come here and make money then complain he can't make as much as he'd like. Stay home and don't make money from USA tours.

I'm not exactly a huge Cradle of Filth fan, but is Dani really a millionaire? I didn't think CoF was all that big and CDs don't sell the numbers they used to.
I don't see it as too far of a strech. They have a couple million album sales. And while CD's don't sell much it's that individual songs now sell instead. CoF was a mainstage band at Ozzfest in 2002 and 2003. If memory serves 2003 Ozzfest was the height of ticket sales. Supposedly, according to Sharon, they had about 22K viewers per day. 25-30 dates a year (I'd have to go count 2002 and 2003) would put them in front of over 1 million people in the US alone.

They might not be at quite a million over their lifetime, I'd be surprised if they weren't fairly close.
 
faethor said:
redrumloa said:
I'm not up on this new musician tax, you have a link?
IMO it doesn't matter. It's not his country. He wants to come here and make money then complain he can't make as much as he'd like. Stay home and don't make money from USA tours.

On the surface, I'd agree. I'm more worried about less popular bands. Looking at Wikipedia CoF has been around since the early 90's, they could have sold millions in their career since album sales were good back then. There are plenty of newer and lesser known bands I like a lot. With Album sales as poor as they are now, bands rely on touring. Sadly in many cases touring does not bring in enough for a band to make any real profit as it is. If there is some new tax, it will probably stop a lot of smaller bands altogether. I'd recommend the documentary for the band Anvil.

I'm curious, when I have some free time I will look into what new tax Dani is talking about.
 
redrumloa said:
If there is some new tax, it will probably stop a lot of smaller bands altogether. I'd recommend the documentary for the band Anvil.

I'm curious, when I have some free time I will look into what new tax Dani is talking about.
It didn't sound to me that this was a new tax. He said the IRS is trying to get 30% off of everybody. It could be the IRS has become more strigent.

Here's an interesting article from Reuters about the government putting more effort to collect the proper taxes from entertainment. As noted the IRS looks to have become more strigent starting in 2007. There is a 30% tax on international entertainment acts. Also it indicates most foreign nations allow entertainers to take the US tax as a tax credit back at home.
 
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