Excellent Rant by Mark Levin

We have people in a foreign country and the people who live there are killing our occupiers so we should drop ordinance over every inch of their country so that they are all killed for trying to get rid of us - that will teach them, and also be incredibly affordable because US ordinance is cheap and we have lots of money.

Sounds like - if soldiers over there are getting killed by the people who live over there then the soldiers would be better off if they were back at home.

He asks why we have to put ourselves in their shoes? The question is why do we have to put ourselves in their country?
 
Half way through and it's quite clear the guy is an ignorant self righteous buffoon - but maybe that's just his radio persona because I've heard his style before and right wing bet wetters and pussies love to listen to guys like this because it makes them feel tough and less afraid to be agreeing with someone so obviously aggressive and just as small minded as they are.
 
We have people in a foreign country and the people who live there are killing our occupiers so we should drop ordinance over every inch of their country so that they are all killed for trying to get rid of us - that will teach them, and also be incredibly affordable because US ordinance is cheap and we have lots of money.

Funny thing is we helped to free those people from Islamofascist and had the hated Islamofascist cowering in the mountains of another country. That was until the current POTUS screwed it all up with horrid military and Afghanistan policies that allow those Islamofascist to recover and attack again. Had we kept up what was in place, we wouldn't be having these issues and having to rewin again by bombing the crap out of the Islamofascist where ever they find skirts to hide behind. War is not neat, war is not clean, it's a brutal horror to behold as a pure Hell.

Sounds like - if soldiers over there are getting killed by the people who live over there then the soldiers would be better off if they were back at home.

Possible since the current Chief Idiot has FUBAR everything in sight in Afghanistan. It just might be time to pull out and leave those poor bastards to be killed or raped by the Islamofascist.

He asks why we have to put ourselves in their shoes? The question is why do we have to put ourselves in their country?

Because the Islamofascist that were running Afghanistan not only back, but supplied and protected another group of Islamofascist who not only declared war on my country, but initiated it on 9-11-01. That is why we are there, but the current idiot in charge of it decided to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory by his inane policies. More blood on Obama's hands because he is incompetent, way to go, it's the Progressive way of doing things!
 
Half way through and it's quite clear the guy is an ignorant self righteous buffoon - but maybe that's just his radio persona because I've heard his style before and right wing bet wetters and pussies love to listen to guys like this because it makes them feel tough and less afraid to be agreeing with someone so obviously aggressive and just as small minded as they are.

I had a feeling the truth would get under your skin. ;)
 
I had a feeling the truth would get under your skin. ;)
Guess you were wrong then. Truth is quite acceptable to me. These self righteous delusional rants are just a part of the normal psychosis of the weak and stupid. They make themselves feel adequate by bluster. I hate to mention the Nazis because it is so cliche but also perhaps the best and most widely known exemplar of the art but this rant is straight from that propaganda mold. We have the right to attack and invade other people because our morals are superior and our people are braver and God is with us. We kill them to save them: we kill them for freedom.
 
Funny thing is we helped to free those people from Islamofascist and had the hated Islamofascist cowering in the mountains of another country. That was until the current POTUS screwed it all up with horrid military and Afghanistan policies that allow those Islamofascist to recover and attack again.
By having Osama Bin Ladden and many of his supporters killed...

Listen, I did support going into Afghanistan because I felt it was warranted. But I also didn't realize that NATO, and the US in particular, would screw it up so badly. The big problem with Afghanistan after the war with the Soviets was that it was neglected. That was a mistake. So what does the US do after they take Afghanistan? They neglect it so they can focus on Iraq. That's when the problems started. But it was probably doomed to fail anyway because Americans completely lack any cultural sensitivities, like NOT burning qurans. It's like going into India and shooting a cow in front of a Hindu. To us it seems like a no big deal, to them it's a very big deal. You can't just go into another country as "liberators" and do what ever the heck you want. Sure the US liberated them from the Taliban, but that doesn't give them license to bomb their wedding parties or to disgrace their religion.

Possible since the current Chief Idiot has FUBAR everything in sight in Afghanistan.
That's funny. You say that as if Afghanistan was going great until Obama came along. I got news for you, Bush dropped the ball on Afghanistan. I place the blame squarely on his shoulders. Afghanistan should not have been neglected and all the money wasted on Iraq should have been funneled into Afghanistan's rebuilding. Afghanistan could have been tamed easily if they put in 300,000 troops and spent some serious cash on rebuilding infrastructure and training their police and military. Instead Afghanistan is a basket case and it's not just because of the Taliban. The problem is that so much damage has been done in those early years that Afghans have lost faith in the West. And like a marriage with just a single bought of infidelity, the trust is gone and can never be regained. It was over from the beginning.
 
By having Osama Bin Ladden and many of his supporters killed...

Listen, I did support going into Afghanistan because I felt it was warranted.

So did I at the time.
I was a lot more ignorant back then; got most of my news from TV and popular newspapers like most other people.
I bought into the whole idea that the "West" is a force for good and all the other shite that goes along with that.

The funny thing is, if it hadn't been for them pushing it so far that it became blindingly obvious, I'd probably still be thinking that way.

But push it too far they did and Iraq gave me the kick up the arse I needed to wake up and start paying attention.

Not long after that I realised the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan was just another, murderous scam that had very little (if anything) to do with the pursuit of justice.
 
Listen, I did support going into Afghanistan because I felt it was warranted.

Looks like I'm in the minority because I never was in favour of going to Afghanistan. 9/11 turned me into a reader. I started consuming vast amounts of news from varied sources and the US wasn't being completely forthcoming about it's reasons for going to Afghanistan - that they weren't negotiating in good faith and that the rhetoric was spiraling to war that was likely to cause the deaths of many innocent people for the crimes of a group that had been sanctioned and abetted by US friends in Pakistan. It was the lying that undermined my faith.

Mind you, I had already watched the first Gulf War happen and while I was ambivalent about that venture, what I learned about it in subsequent years had already lead me to be distrustful of official versions of things.

I expected an attack on Afghanistan because America does strike back with violence since they have so much of the machinery of violence at their disposal. In a wild west sense the US couldn't take an insult like that and not go and punch somebody to prove that they were strong (and it doesn't have to be the one that insulted you, either - if there's a weedy little runt that laughed at the insult he's the one that gets clocked - normal bully politics).

However, there was only ever one way to wage the war that would have made any sense and that was to fly in, flatten the training camps and take Osama back to the US for trial - or, since they couldn't prove the connection, kill him on the battlefield.

Even without capturing or killing Osama, the mission should have been solely about the camps and it should have lasted less than a week. Then you go home and tell the Taliban to shape up or they're next. If you stay to fight in Afghanistan all you are showing the Taliban is that you are as stupid as the Soviets.

But that's not what the game was about. The US just wanted to get their game pieces on the Afghanistan square.
 
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