Fun with RFIDs

[FluffyMcDeath]

With a bit of kit you can find out how many folks in your town have one of the new passports.

here

 

[cecilia]

according to the State Dept "There is no personal information written on the electronic chip itself. The only information contained on the chip is a unique number which points to a stored record contained in secure government databases."

so the real question is who has access to these databases? Obviously the info stored from my passport from YEARS ago has been stored somewhere. I don't have one of the new RFID Passports. why is my info more secure than that of a person with a new passport?

 

[cecilia]

About Electronic Passports and Contactless Smart Card Technology

"In sharp contrast, the blue U.S. electronic passport books use RF-enabled contactless smart card technology. This is a completely different technology that includes a small computer inside the e-passport book. The U.S. e-passport is not vulnerable to the remote reading attack demonstrated on RFID-based Passport Cards and EDLs. A small gold chip icon on the book cover indicates an electronic passport.

U.S. electronic passports are very privacy-secure. A metallic shield in the cover prevents any information from being read when the book is closed. Further, it has a short read range of two inches and the chip won’t give up any information until the passport book is physically opened and a unique key that is printed inside the passport is optically scanned and sent to the chip. The U.S. Department of State calls this e-passport security Basic Access Control."

 

[faethor]

Nothing a hammer cannot fix.

 

[cecilia]

Nothing a hammer cannot fix.

what if you get arrested for tampering with your PP??

and i'd rather solve the problem with technology

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Nothing a hammer cannot fix.

what if you get arrested for tampering with your PP??

Yes.

and i'd rather solve the problem with technology

Technology is the PROBLEM!

Also, the actual scan session is snoopable. Record distance for snooping on a scan (rather than trying to do a direct read from a distance) is around 150 feet.

This whole chip technology is to control citizens not protect them from a threat that really does not exist.

 

[cecilia]

and i'd rather solve the problem with technology

Technology is the PROBLEM!

Also, the actual scan session is snoopable. Record distance for snooping on a scan (rather than trying to do a direct read from a distance) is around 150 feet.

This whole chip technology is to control citizens not protect them from a threat that really does not exist.

the problem is people.

i'm no fan of putting chips in passports. frankly, I don't really see the advantage. which is one reason i asked how do we know this "database" the number on the chip refers to is secure. who is looking at and accessing the database?

I'd like a full explaination of how chipping is really useful. if they want to prevent people from making fake PP's, just make them like money with holograms and whatnot.

I've read some people's comments that they are worried that they will be targeted because they are american. well, News Flash - you don't need a passport to tell if someone is an american. just look at how they act!
DUH!

:roll:

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

the problem is people.

Exactly.

RFID makes certain applications in industry sooooo much better, cheaper and easier to implement.

I think there should be a law which prevents ignorant politicians to decide about stuff they don't know what it's for, and how it should be used.

 

[faethor]

I think there should be a law which prevents ignorant politicians to decide about stuff they don't know what it's for, and how it should be used.

Umm isn't that their purpose?

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

I think there should be a law which prevents ignorant politicians to decide about stuff they don't know what it's for, and how it should be used.

Umm isn't that their purpose?

Maybe it's time to start a discussion about other forms of democracy. The current implementations don't need to be carved in stone.

 

[cecilia]

I think there should be a law which prevents ignorant politicians to decide about stuff they don't know what it's for, and how it should be used.

Umm isn't that their purpose?

Maybe it's time to start a discussion about other forms of democracy. The current implementations don't need to be carved in stone.

in the US they are written on Hemp paper

:mrgreen:

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

in the US they are written on Hemp paper

:mrgreen:

The irony

 

[faethor]

in the US they are written on Hemp paper

You sure? I believe the drafts were on hemp but the final product was on parchment, aka treated animal skins.

 

[cecilia]

in the US they are written on Hemp paper

You sure? I believe the drafts were on hemp but the final product was on parchment, aka treated animal skins.

I was just making the joke that they were not carved in stone

:mrgreen: