Gas May Hit $5 in 2012

Dammy said:
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/01/02/analysts-say-we-could-see-5-a-gallon-for-gas-in-2012/

2012, the beginning of the end. Still say it will go beyond that once the oil stops flowing from the Arabian Gulf which will begin the Domino effect of cascading bank and currency failures.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2002/20021121/default.htm
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Somehow, "I told you so" simply doesn't cut it. For years people have been banging on about public transport, only to be dismissed as nothing more than socialist scum trying to take over the country and presumably eat your children.

This is why. Had you started building ten or more years ago you might now just about have the infrastructure in place to take the strain.[/quote]
 
the_leander said:
Somehow, "I told you so" simply doesn't cut it. For years people have been banging on about public transport, only to be dismissed as nothing more than socialist scum trying to take over the country and presumably eat your children.

This is why. Had you started building ten or more years ago you might now just about have the infrastructure in place to take the strain.
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Nice little soundbites don't cut it. Public transportation works somewhere like New York City, it doesn't work in most of the USA. There are 3,794,083 Square Miles in the USA.

Peak Oil Theory isn't completely proven. This doesn't matter though as the destruction of the USD will cause gas to go beyond $5/gal in the near future. The $5 mark is no big deal anymore, we have seen it already in 2007. At the top I paid about $6/gal for diesel. In 2007 it was largely a bubble, now oil and gas are going up simply due to inflation. Inflation will soon be hyper-inflation. There will be blood on the street as people fight for enough food to survive. Obama will instate Marshall Law for good and the sheep will thank him for it.
 
redrumloa said:
Nice little soundbites don't cut it. Public transportation works somewhere like New York City, it doesn't work in most of the USA. There are 3,794,083 Square Miles in the USA.
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Indeed, even where public transport does work, there's a little more to it. Here in Glasgow the price of public transport has increased so much recently that, once again and despite outrageous petrol prices, it's cheaper to drive for most journeys.
 
Robert said:
Indeed, even where public transport does work, there's a little more to it. Here in Glasgow the price of public transport has increased so much recently that, once again and despite outrageous petrol prices, it's cheaper to drive for most journeys.
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Very true. What little public transportation we have here is poor and often expensive. The light train that we have (Tri-Rail) bleeds money terribly, despite ridership cost being more than private transportation. Tri-Rail only travels one corridor, near I-95 through 3 counties. What is worse, too often someone will throw themselves in front of a train and thousands of people are delayed for hours, literally. Think about being stuck on a train for 4 hours with no bathrooms and not allowed to get off. If you are lucky enough not to be stuck on the train, you could be delayed 6+ hours at the train station only to find out you need to somehow get an alternate way home at midnight.
 
Robert said:
Indeed, even where public transport does work, there's a little more to it. Here in Glasgow the price of public transport has increased so much recently that, once again and despite outrageous petrol prices, it's cheaper to drive for most journeys.
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Down here it's increased due to national companies like first wiping out local competition then hiking it up. that said, with stagecoach now on the scene the prices are holding much more steadily. Over in Manchester First pulled out leaving Stagecoach as the only game in town, which of course has meant unrestricted price hikes over there.

But the point stands, public transportation is is really going to be the only option at some point soon, as for those rural areas where it just isn't feasable, honestly I'd seriously start considering getting into horse breeding.
 
the_leander said:
But the point stands, public transportation is is really going to be the only option at some point soon, as for those rural areas where it just isn't feasable, honestly I'd seriously start considering getting into horse breeding.
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Public transportation will never be an option for most areas outside big cities as long as it is tied to the same fossil fuels. Electric vehicles and solar panels will be the future, as long as the technology continues to progress and as long as the USA survives the coming Marshall Law period.
 
geez if ya knocked off all the gov subsidies for gas itd be there already, truth is it oughta be 10. where do we need to drive in this day and age, really need to? i can make it to my dads on horseback.... lol... but i still have a horse...
 
and yes i do get the fact that "tar baby" will someday be deemed a useless eater... (name came from dad sayin something about tar on an appaloosa, they sposed to carry no black)
 
the_leander said:
Somehow, "I told you so" simply doesn't cut it. For years people have been banging on about public transport, only to be dismissed as nothing more than socialist scum trying to take over the country and presumably eat your children.

This is why. Had you started building ten or more years ago you might now just about have the infrastructure in place to take the strain.
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Of course you love it, it's giving government near complete control over individuals. Of course if your life is completely dependent on government services, it's not wise to bit the hand that feeds you.
 
redrumloa said:
Very true. What little public transportation we have here is poor and often expensive. The light train that we have (Tri-Rail) bleeds money terribly, despite ridership cost being more than private transportation. Tri-Rail only travels one corridor, near I-95 through 3 counties. What is worse, too often someone will throw themselves in front of a train and thousands of people are delayed for hours, literally. Think about being stuck on a train for 4 hours with no bathrooms and not allowed to get off. If you are lucky enough not to be stuck on the train, you could be delayed 6+ hours at the train station only to find out you need to somehow get an alternate way home at midnight.
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Trial Rail generates $1.5M revenue annually. Pity the annual cost is close to $5M annually.
 
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