Global Warming Report for Western US States

[redrumloa]

West Coast bracing for 10 feet of snow.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/19/winter ... tml?hpt=T2

Western states facing 'all-day onslaught' from massive winter storm

A huge winter storm was affecting the West Coast on Sunday, poised to dump up to 10 feet of snow in some higher elevations, and causing flooding and potential mudslides in lower spots while impacting driving conditions and air travel, forecasters said.

A winter storm warning remained in effect through Monday afternoon for California's Sierra Nevada mountains, from Yosemite to Kings Canyon, according to the National Weather Service. "Storm totals of 5 to 10 feet above 7,000 feet are likely," the weather service said, and periods of heavy snow will continue through Monday. High winds are also forecast for the region.

"Travel into the high country of the southern Sierra Nevada may be difficult, if not impossible," according to forecasters.

That possibility exists for the northern Sierras as well. At 3:56 p.m. PST, the National Weather Service was predicting blizzard conditions with winds of up to 70 mph along the higher mountain passes. That could shut down traffic along Interstate 80, state Highway 50 and state Highway 88.

The Weather Service was urging residents in the higher mountain areas to check their generators and buy extra food and supplies.

"It's going to be an all-day onslaught," said CNN Meteorologist Reynolds Wolf. Areas from Denver westward will see rain, he said.

 

[faethor]

I wonder why we don't see people who believe the science will continue to work and get an improved understanding dancing on every hot day?

I didn't see 'it's hot' posted for the last 11 months of the year. ...

 

[redrumloa]

I wonder why we don't see people who believe the science will continue to work and get an improved understanding dancing on every hot day?

I didn't see 'it's hot' posted for the last 11 months of the year. ...

Because it didn't happen.

 

[faethor]

I wonder why we don't see people who believe the science will continue to work and get an improved understanding dancing on every hot day?

I didn't see 'it's hot' posted for the last 11 months of the year. ...

Because it didn't happen.

Yes you are right. It's hot posts didn't happen even while the heat did.

 

[redrumloa]

Yes you are right. It's hot posts didn't happen even while the heat did.

Show me where record breaking heat happened this year.

 

[faethor]

Yes you are right. It's hot posts didn't happen even while the heat did.

Show me where record breaking heat happened this year.

In your Country?
" The contiguous United States had its fourth-warmest summer (June-August) on record, according to the latest NOAA State of the Climate report issued September 8." LINK

Abnormal warmth dominated much of the east, where a record warm summer occurred in Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama.
...Florida, Louisiana and Tennessee experienced their second warmest August on record

 

[redrumloa]

Yes you are right. It's hot posts didn't happen even while the heat did.

Show me where record breaking heat happened this year.

In your Country?
" The contiguous United States had its fourth-warmest summer (June-August) on record, according to the latest NOAA State of the Climate report issued September 8." LINK

Abnormal warmth dominated much of the east, where a record warm summer occurred in Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama.
...Florida, Louisiana and Tennessee experienced their second warmest August on record

Come now faethor, you can do better than that can't you? Where do they get this data? We have been over this.

I live in Florida and we did not see any records for heat being broken nor did we see the anticipated Global Warming Droughts, instead we saw record breaking rainfall. There comes a point where you have to stop taking propaganda as fact and start believing what you see out your own window.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

According to Florida State University Propaganda department:

August had more low temperature records set than high temperature records yet it averaged a temperature above normal.
November set more high temperature records than low temperature records but averaged cooler than normal.

 

[faethor]

@RED

Your reports of Global Cooling due to a couple weeks of cold now appear to be exaggerated. It's the first week of winter here in Minnesota. Our average high temp is about 24 degrees and average low around 9. LINK Yesterday and today we're above average high and above average low. We are predicted to dip a bit next week then come back up again. I think this illustrates well that cold events do happen and they are part of the cycle.

Miami Florida looks to have a similar pattern. The average high this time of year is about 75. It's supposed to be 74 for most of the week, dip a bit into the 60s, and come back into the average range. Undue cooling in the immediate winter doesn't seem to be the thing.

What I find is that people have a tendency to rank proximal events higher. It's one of confirmation bias. They assume their world view and when their local events, at the time, confirm that view. They do a victory dance. And they neglect to accept the opposite events with the same vigor. It's simply a matter of the way we're built.

With science we're able to get past the unfair weighing of proximal events with a higher importance. We see effects over time and effects across the world. These all come together to determine how things are changing over the years, decades, and centuries.

And here's more info on the2010 Summer heatwave you thought to have not happened.


As an amusing side note you had given an example in the past where your backyard thermometer was cooler than the offical measure miles away from you. Your conclusion was they are cooking the books. I have a similar example from today. The offical temp was 28. The car thermo measured 32 outside. There's water on the streets. Using that past logic should I conclude they're cooking the bookd for the Global Cooling?

 

[redrumloa]

As an amusing side note you had given an example in the past where your backyard thermometer was cooler than the offical measure miles away from you. Your conclusion was they are cooking the books. I have a similar example from today. The offical temp was 28. The car thermo measured 32 outside. There's water on the streets. Using that past logic should I conclude they're cooking the bookd for the Global Cooling?

Well, I acknowledged my back yard thermometer was not likely terribly accurate. But then again it was likely cooler than the official temp. AFAIK the closest station is a few miles away at the Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport. It would not be a stretch of the imagination to think the temps in my back yard would be lower than the air port.

If your car is sitting on asphalt during the day the reading would be right :wink:

-Edit-
BTW, my "global warming reports" are mostly tongue-in-cheek. Think back 5-10 years ago every single weather event or localized heat wave was being paraded about as proof of global warming. Anyone (like me) who challenged such logic was ridiculed. The shoe is on the other foot now, so when in Rome...

 

[faethor]

BTW, my "global warming reports" are mostly tongue-in-cheek. Think back 5-10 years ago every single weather event or localized heat wave was being paraded about as proof of global warming. Anyone (like me) who challenged such logic was ridiculed. The shoe is on the other foot now, so when in Rome...

I'd agree that any single localized event is not indicative of a worldwide large trend. And yes we did hear some, often not scientists and at most the press, who would declare that X is due to Global Warming. Weather is chaotic and any single event would be difficult to prove, or disprove, that Global Warming was the cause. Global Warming is a trend and we must look to the trends to see the impacts. We see a trend on all glaciers (if I recall except 1 perhaps) of accelerating reduction in mass and volume. We see a trend that hurricanes are more frequent, are a longer season, and are stronger. (Remember not all hurricanes hit land, or hit the US). We see a trend that various species around the globe are widening their migration areas. So while a single event isn't really indicative of anything LOTS of events together do indicate that overall warming of the planet is underway.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Sunspots, "blocking" and the "Little Ice Age"