Homes with Chinese drywall must be gutted

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By CAIN BURDEAU

NEW ORLEANS - Thousands of U.S. homes tainted by Chinese drywall should be gutted, according to new guidelines released Friday by the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

The guidelines say electrical wiring, outlets, circuit breakers, fire alarm systems, carbon monoxide alarms, fire sprinklers, gas pipes and drywall need to be removed.

"We want families to tear it all out and rebuild the interior of their homes, and they need to start this to get their lives started all over again," said Inez Tenenbaum, chairwoman of the commission, the federal agency charged with making sure consumer products are safe.

About 3,000 homeowners, mostly in Florida, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana, have reported problems with the Chinese-made drywall, which was imported in large quantities during the housing boom and after a string of Gulf Coast hurricanes.

The drywall has been linked to corrosion of wiring, air conditioning units, computers, doorknobs and jewelry, along with possible health effects. Tenenbaum said some samples of the Chinese-made product emit 100 times as much hydrogen sulfide as drywall made elsewhere.

The agency continues to investigate possible health effects, but preliminary studies have found a possible link between throat, nose and lung irritation and high levels of hydrogen sulfide gas emitted from the wallboard, coupled with formaldehyde, which is commonly found in new houses.

U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., said now the question is who pays to gut the homes.

"The way I see it, homeowners didn't cause this. The manufacturers in China did," Nelson said. "That's why we've got to go after the Chinese government now."

Southern members of Congress have sought to make it easier to sue Chinese manufacturers and to get the Federal Emergency Management Agency to help homeowners pay for costs not covered by insurance. They also say the U.S. needs to pressure the Chinese government, which allegedly ran some of the companies that made defective drywall.

About 2,100 homeowners have filed suit in federal court in New Orleans against Chinese manufacturers and U.S. companies that sold the drywall. U.S. District Judge Eldon Fallon is expected to rule soon in a pivotal case against the Knauf Plasterboard Tianjin Co., the only Chinese company that has responded to U.S. suits.

Separate claims by thousands more homeowners against Chinese manufacturers are pending, said Jordan Chaikin, a Florida lawyer whose firm represents about 1,000 homeowners.

They are "continuing to live in their homes with Chinese drywall, patiently waiting for this thing to be resolved so they can move on with their lives," Chaikin said. "We're not waiting for the government to move quicker than we are in the courts."

In some cases, homebuilders have paid to gut and rewire homes. In others, homeowners who can afford it have paid for the work themselves. Knauf Plasterboard has offered to pay for remediation in homes where its defective drywall was installed.

On Friday, Knauf Plasterboard agreed that high hydrogen sulfide levels appeared to be the main concern, but it noted the commission's studies were preliminary and may not reflect conditions inside a home. The company said its studies have shown that drywall should be removed, but that plumbing and wiring do not need to go.

Daniel Becnel, a New Orleans lawyer representing Chinese drywall plaintiffs, including Sean Payton, the head coach of the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints, said the government guidelines issued Friday were "word for word what our experts said."

He also said Congress should give homeowners grants to cover the cost of home gutting.

"Get these people out of this environment," he said. "You're making these people sicker and sicker and sicker. You will have long-term effects."

In Cape Coral, Fla., Joyce Dowdy, 71, and her husband Sonny, 63, plan to move out of their $150,000, 1,600-square-foot home while it is gutted to get rid of tainted Chinese drywall.

Joyce Dowdy said she suffers from nose bleeds and her husband has a persistent cough. They blame the drywall.

"We can't live like this anymore," Joyce Dowdy.

They're borrowing money to do the gutting, which means that instead of a mortgage-free retirement they will be paying monthly bills cover the costs of repair.

"It's costing us as much as we paid for the house," Joyce Dowdy said. "But we can't just walk away ... Our house is worth nothing at the moment."

But Randy Noel, past president of the Louisiana Home Builders Association, said the Chinese drywall problem has been exaggerated. He called the new guidelines "overkill."

"Nobody has come up with a house yet that has caught on fire from the Chinese drywall, no one has come up yet with a house that leaks water or gas because of Chinese drywall," he said.

He has examined numerous homes containing Chinese drywall and found minor problems, he said.

"It's a black soot on top of the copper, brass and silver," he said. "You wipe the stuff off and it looks as good as new."
 
H2S is very dangerous

0.0047 ppm is the recognition threshold, described as "a rotten egg".
a constant exposure of 10 ppm causes health problems:
eye irritation, a sore throat and cough, nausea, shortness of breath, and fluid in the lungs.

exposure to 320–530 ppm leads to pulmonary edema & death.

A diagnostic clue of poisoning by H2S is the Black discoloration of copper coins in the pockets of the victim.

The Chinese drywall uses fly ash that has high H2S levels because emission scrubbers are not installed on Chinese smokestacks.

U.S. drywall makers use only fly ash that has passed through H2S emission scrubbers installed on Smokestacks.

Gypsum Board Manufacture
 
This has been in the news in South Florida for some time. This has hit a newer (approx $300K houses) community hard in Florida. The homes have been deemed unsafe for habitation, but insurance companies refuse to cover it. People are left with a huge mortgage and no home to live in, sad stuff. At least something is being done, so they may sue Chinese drywall companies.
 
"Chinese Drywall"

Sounds like a great name for a band.

On the upside - it was probably cheap and meant that the home building industry was able to keep profits high.

On the downside - sucks to get ripped off.

On the upside - employment!!!

Then again - is the H2S out-gassing any worse than living in Alberta near a sour gas well?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
On the upside - it was probably cheap and meant that the home building industry was able to keep profits high.

Probably only saved $1-2k, and I doubt the whole house is Chinese drywall, probably used American drywall for the "green" water resistant areas and "5/8 fire rated" areas.

FluffyMcDeath said:
Then again - is the H2S out-gassing any worse than living in Alberta near a sour gas well?

Depends on how close you are to the well, Don't climb into the cellar around the tree, thats where the H2S collects. They flare off the well bore gas anytime gas is released to the atmosphere. There are H2S warning monitors all around the well head that will sound audible alarms if 20 ppm H2S is detected at surface.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
metalman said:
Depends on how close you are to the well,

I lived in St. Albert when a well in Lodgepole blew out

I wasn't that close
See map
but we could smell it and it was stinky.

28% H2S! that Killed every critter in miles!
They would have had to be wearing Oxygen Masks while they tried to regain control of the well.

They screwed up on how they rigged up the BOP stack on that well, or something malfunctioned, should have been a flare line to divert the gas to the mud pit, where the gas could have been flared immediately without burning down the rig.

Most wells here are plugged immediately in this area, if test is sour gas. One of the formations trends sour and as it dips toward the coast.

There is Sulfur leach mining south east of Houston along the coast, and Uranium leach mining 50 miles east of here.
 
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