House approves healthcare reform bill

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After a day of testy, sometimes repetitive debate, the House passes a landmark healthcare bill that would create a new role for the federal government in supplying insurance for almost all Americans. The final vote was 220-215

Congratulations. Now perhaps your child mortality rates will get better then Cubas.
 
the_leander said:
After a day of testy, sometimes repetitive debate, the House passes a landmark healthcare ...

A sad day indeed. The bill that was passed was an abomination. The bill that was needed was HR 676.

What was passed was partly a decoy so they could say they passed a health bill and wouldn't have to get involved in HR 676, and mostly a give away to the "health" industry.

Business as usual. You need to listen to the Tommy Douglas "Mouseland" speech.
 
I support universal health care but to suggest that the US could transition from private to universal overnight seems fanciful. I think this is a step towards universal health care.
 
Health Care Bill Worse Law Since 1930s: Forbes

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33786810

The healthcare reform that the House of Representatives approved late Saturday is bad for the US and will actually damage the health care system, Steve Forbes, CEO at Forbes, told CNBC Monday.

The bill approved by the House expands coverage to nearly all Americans and bars insurance practices such as refusing to cover people with pre-existing medical conditions.

But the battle is now shifting to the Senate, where work on the health care reform has been stalled for weeks as Democratic leader Harry Reid searches for an approach that can win the 60 votes he needs to overcome Republican procedural hurdles.

The Senate version on the public option is different to that voted by the House and eventually the two parliament houses will have to agree on one bill to be passed again and then sent to President Barack Obama to be signed.

"This is the worse piece of legislation to pass Congress … since the 1930s," Forbes told "Squawk Box."

"I think short-term they'll take losses next year, but more manifestly they're going to hurt the economy," he added.

If the bill is passed, it would bring the biggest changes in the $2.5 trillion healthcare system, which accounts for one-sixth of the economy, since the Medicare government health insurance program for the elderly was created in 1965.

But the reform as was proposed risks to kill innovation and is bad for businesses as it will raise costs, Forbes said.

In the next 10 years "we're going to have ballooning taxes," he added.

According to the House bill, exchanges where people could choose to purchase private insurance or a government-run option opposed by the insurance industry will be set up. The bill would also offer subsidies to help low-income Americans buy insurance.
 
redrumloa said:
Health Care Bill Worse Law Since 1930s: Forbes

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33786810

Thanks for posting that Jim. Yes, not a good situation and one I hope that the senate will consider more carefully.

I would like to compliment Speaker Pelosi on one item however... she did (as predicted) break her promise to put the proposed bill up for review prior to the vote and (as predicted) she did not. I guess she knew that if the public had a chance to actually read that piece of legislation that the closeness of the vote would likely have been the other way. So, like her administration leader, she also will not follow through on a promise.

Here's hoping Harry Reid has taken note.

Regards,
Ltstanfo
 
FluffyMcDeath said:

Pretty good article, thanks.

The lies begin with the name itself. The bill is titled: Affordable Health Care for America Act.

In fact, the bill's primary purpose has absolutely nothing to do with providing "affordable health care." The purpose is to extract as much money as possible from "ordinary" Americans -- and to do so at the point of a gun (what do you think those financial penalties and even possible prison time are, if not a gun pointing directly at your head?) -- and shovel it directly to already-engorged insurance companies. Americans will be forced to buy insurance, which as we all know, many of us through deeply painful personal experience, has nothing whatsoever to do with health care. And Americans will be forced to spend money for largely useless insurance -- which insurance will often be entirely useless just when they need it most critically -- in amounts that may devastate them and their families.
 
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