How artificial sweetners cause weight gain.

FluffyMcDeath said:
At least, if you are a rat - but also quite likely if you are a human.

In Scientific American.

One glaring problem is you can't hardly find anything with real sugar, only high fructose corn syrup which is poison.
 
redrumloa said:
One glaring problem is you can't hardly find anything with real sugar, only high fructose corn syrup which is poison.

Tell me about it. The last time I went to buy gum it was all sweetened with aspartame. Finally I found a pack that said it was sweetened with sugar so I bought it but when I looked a bit closer I found that it was sweetened with sugar AND aspartame... and sorbitol and sucrolose!!!!!

So no more gum. Also don't drink pop - stay away from most prepared sweet things. But you're right, the stuff is everywhere.
 
My dad's a baker, so I'm cursed with sweet things on a regular basis.

As for this research, seems inconclusive to me. If the rats got fat from the sucrolose yogurt because they didn't know when to stop, then there could be other factors at play. For instance, don't eat three tubs of yogurt every hour. Or what would happen if instead of yogurt you ate something high in fiber and felt full sooner?

Anyway, we're all gonna die one day anyway, so enjoy the good things in life, even if they're a bit bad for you. Safety == boring.
 
Glaucus said:
As for this research, seems inconclusive to me. If the rats got fat from the sucrolose yogurt because they didn't know when to stop,

That's not inconclusive. That IS the conclusion. The rats could no longer tell when their calorie needs were satisfied, unlike the other rats on sugar who could.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Glaucus said:
As for this research, seems inconclusive to me. If the rats got fat from the sucrolose yogurt because they didn't know when to stop,

That's not inconclusive. That IS the conclusion. The rats could no longer tell when their calorie needs were satisfied, unlike the other rats on sugar who could.
...while eating yogurt. That might be different with other foods. And what I really meant by inconclusive is that rats or mice are quite different from people. People may have more queues as to when to stop eating. If people decide to eat 8 gallons of sucrolose, maybe they'd get fat too, but I'd expect most people wouldn't do that.
 
For the record I am a huge fan of Splenda for drinks (coffee, coke zero). From what I can tell I have no ill effects. HFCS is a whole other story, so I avoid the stuff best I can...
 
Glaucus said:
FluffyMcDeath said:
The rats could no longer tell when their calorie needs were satisfied, unlike the other rats on sugar who could.
...while eating yogurt.

Yogurt plus their regular food.
And what I really meant by inconclusive is that rats or mice are quite different from people.
Yes, people do derive some comfort from thinking that.

People may have more queues as to when to stop eating.

Like the fridge being empty, the ice cream tub running dry, the TV show ending, etc. People tend to stop eating when they don't want to eat any more. (excluding those who are on strict diets who stop eating because they have eaten all they will allow themselves).

If people decide to eat 8 gallons of sucrolose, maybe they'd get fat too, but I'd expect most people wouldn't do that.
That won't make you fat - that'll make you dead.
No, it's not the sucralose that makes you fat, it's the way it changes how you eat - and they way it changes the way the brain responds to what you eat.

Fat people eat artificial sweeteners is a mere correlation and rather inconclusive. Mammals that eat some artificial sweetener in their diet get fatter than their cohorts that don't demonstrates something causative (and it isn't advertising).
 
*shrug* Maybe you're right, some people do like to eat as much as they can and in those cases Splenda might give them false comfort. But I'd still like to see more studies. I for example work out regularly, watch what I eat and use 50% Splenda, 50% Sugar in my coffee, which I drink less and less these days. Perhaps things like Splenda can be effective for weight loss when used right - ie, you don't use it's 0 calorie characteristic as an excuse to stuff yourself silly.

Anyway, sugar doesn't just make you fat, it raises your chances of diabetes. So even if Splenda does make you fat, it's not likely to screw up your pancreas as only a small amount of it gets absorbed into your blood (unlike aspartame) and doesn't require insulin to regulate it. I'd be curious to see what diabetics think of Splenda.
 
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