Immuzationa peotect agqinst unrelated diseases

FluffyMcDeath said:
@faethor,
I'll have one of what you're having. Looks good.
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If I must confess it was Jameson.

Though an interesting, and small, study that should be expanded...
"Conventional thinking has it that memory cells for a particular microbe only form in response to an infection. ...
... people had been screened for diseases and had never been infected with HIV, herpes simplex virus or cytomegalovirus. Despite this, Davis's team found that all the samples contained T-cells tailored to these viruses...
...The finding could explain why vaccinating children against measles seems to improve mortality rates from other diseases."
 
redrumloa said:
I guess this will be seen as welcome news for those of you who think vaccines are good no matter what.

New York Appeals Court: Federal Government Can Vaccinate Your Children Without Your Consent – Trumps State Laws

In reality you should have a chill run down your spine reading that.
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you know the gates foundation is trying to use disease carrying vectors to immunize those in the third world, whom sickened by our cia shill doctors, are not amenable to our free vaccine programs... wonder how long before they use same process here....
 
@Red,

You left out, but it is in the article, the very important - in the State of Emergency. It's during this time that the Government suspends it's normal functions along with several rights and freedoms. I think your question is more properly should ask should we ever declare a State of Emergency? Under what conditions? And do we have the proper checks and balances to ensure that declaration is legit.
 
metalman said:
Claim polio vaccines a CIA plot to sterilize Muslim children
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You mean they don't understand how vaccines work? You'd think they were from Florida or something... ;)

Unfortunately, the USA has used the guise of medicine to inflict harm. An easy example was the outing of Osama Bin Laden's location. We should be keeping medicine for it's purpose - to improve life conditions of that individual. Not leveraging it as a wartime weapon.
 
faethor said:
@Red,

You left out, but it is in the article, the very important - in the State of Emergency. It's during this time that the Government suspends it's normal functions along with several rights and freedoms. I think your question is more properly should ask should we ever declare a State of Emergency? Under what conditions? And do we have the proper checks and balances to ensure that declaration is legit.
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Just like avian flu and swine flu were "state of emergency"? I don't trust government to get anything right and their motives are NOT in out best interest. Government should NEVER have authority over someone's child unless that person is terribly abusive.
 
redrumloa said:
Just like avian flu and swine flu were "state of emergency"?
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One was declared - http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...y-with-respect-2009-h1n1-influenza-pandemic-0 . This goes to larger question - do we have the propert system in place to ascertain validity of a declared State of Emergency? Personally I think we do need the power to declare Emergencies. However, I don't think we have the proper processes to ascertain validity of the declarations.

I don't trust government to get anything right and their motives are NOT in out best interest. Government should NEVER have authority over someone's child unless that person is terribly abusive.
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It's good to be a bit paranoid but you're a bit over the top. The Gov does have it's problems, certainly. Though the Gov does lots of things well. -- Free Public Libraries, NASA, FAA, Park Systems, Military, Court System, Highway systems, Statistical collections and reporting, CDC - I think we can agree that these things aren't perfect. I think what we'll find is these agencies lead the world, if not history of the world, in their endeavors. (NOTE: that list isn't inclusive just a 5 second quickie off the top of my head.)
 
many are the number of the blind who will follow the nefarious deeds of corporate kings.... sadly, and i hate to be the one to say this, the worst "paranoid fantasy" isn't even close to the actual reality of the quite draconian future in store for most of us...
 
faethor said:
Though the Gov does lots of things well. -- Free Public Libraries, NASA, FAA, Park Systems, Military, Court System, Highway systems, Statistical collections and reporting, CDC - I think we can agree that these things aren't perfect.
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But most of those things are old, built by a different government and are currently being dismantled by the new government.
 
faethor said:
It's good to be a bit paranoid but you're a bit over the top.
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I wish it were simply paranoia, but it is not. There are many examples of parts of the public being used as guinea pigs, too many to list.

Besides, how is it paranoia when this same government wants the ability to blow up American citizens on US soil using drones, without any due process? How can you makes such comments about those of us concerned as being "paranoid" with these assholes in office?!?
 
they didn't move the plum island research facility to the middle of the worlds food supply for no reason....
 
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