Iran, Just In Time Before the Nov Elections?

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/17/us-officials-iran-sanctions-military-action

Where is Code Pink at? Mass demonstrations against the chief War Criminal? Oh where oh where is the Progressives at in their silly protest at calling for impeachment for Obama's naked use of military force just at the time of his re-election? Yes, I can hear... awh, just the crickets chirping since the left won't do that to their President in any meaning form. Boy, we know which way those guys go when it's not in their political interest, say it ain't so!
 
We marched Feb 4th - in many cities. The liberal media wasn't there. Admittedly, not a big turn out. People don't want to be part of protests these days - don't want to get pepper sprayed, tasered and arrested.

Were you out protesting - or just listening to the crickets and complaining?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
We marched Feb 4th - in many cities. The liberal media wasn't there. Admittedly, not a big turn out. People don't want to be part of protests these days - don't want to get pepper sprayed, tasered and arrested.
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So what city were you in? RCMP beating you all up that badly? Not sure what the point is of protesting in a different country instead in the one you are protesting.

Were you out protesting - or just listening to the crickets and complaining?
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I'll go next time as soon as I find the Soros' sponsored PayMaster's email or mobile number. I want my money just like the rest of them, it's a hard day of work after all, I deserve to be treated like the rest and paid for my work.
 
Dammy said:
I'll go next time as soon as I find the Soros' sponsored PayMaster's email or mobile number. I want my money just like the rest of them, it's a hard day of work after all, I deserve to be treated like the rest and paid for my work.
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Translation: "No, I wasn't protesting and I probably never will but I'll moan when I think (because I haven't really looked) that no one else is protesting."
 
Robert said:
Translation: "No, I wasn't protesting and I probably never will but I'll moan when I think (because I haven't really looked) that no one else is protesting."
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Let me correct your failed translation, "No, I wasn't protesting but I am taking a whiz on all those protesters who had wall to wall media coverage when it was a Republican in the White House who aren't doing squat now that their Progressive Idol is now in the White House doing things that other Progressives threatened to impeach a Republic President if he ever dared to do."

Funny how VP Biden ducked the media for over a month after Obama got the US into the Libya Civil War without Congressional approval after he had said:

 
Let me correct your failed correction:

Dammy said:
"No, I wasn't protesting but I am taking a whiz on all those protesters who I am claiming had wall to wall media coverage when it was a Republican in the White House who I can't see doing squat since I choose not to see now that a right of centre puppet who I am for some reason mistaking for a Progressive is now in the White House doing things that other Progressives threatened to impeach a Republic President if he ever dared to do."
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;)
 
redrumloa said:
Hmm, why was the corporate mainstream media not there? Oh yeah, right, that whole Obama propaganda machine thing...
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Fixed, because the actual liberal media, that being made up of blogs and independent news sites were filled with it.

Problem is you'd have to peal your eyes away from, as my old English teacher described it, the idiot lantern, to see it.

And no, the protests weren't as big this time around, simply because a lot of people, having seen the complete non effect of the ones on the run up to the Iraq war, have simply lost faith in the political class and don't believe they'll be listened to.
 
I didn't make the liberal media reference first, just replying ;)

the_leander said:
And no, the protests weren't as big this time around, simply because a lot of people, having seen the complete non effect of the ones on the run up to the Iraq war, have simply lost faith in the political class and don't believe they'll be listened to.
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Why would they just now lose faith? It is not like the Vietnam protests did much good.
 
redrumloa said:
I didn't make the liberal media reference first, just replying ;)



Why would they just now lose faith? It is not like the Vietnam protests did much good.
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I think over here at least, the 2003 protests, coupled with all the protests at the cuts coupled with changes in the law and numerous public appearances of MPs dismissing us out of hand have all had a cumulative effect.

We know we're being shafted and ignored. We just don't know what to do about it.
 
the media may not report it but people ARE protesting and even returning to parks and getting arrested because they have the nerve to Sit Down in a public place.
I know some people.
 
cecilia said:
the media may not report it but people ARE protesting and even returning to parks and getting arrested because they have the nerve to Sit Down in a public place.
I know some people.
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Of course the Progressive Media (ABC/CBS/NBC/NPR/PBS/MSNBC) isn't cover it anymore, it's no longer of political value for Obama.
 
Dammy said:
Only when there is a Progressive War Monger as President. Other wise it's just fine and dandy.
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The only way the above sentence could contain any logic is if the mainstream media are liberal (i.e. anti-war) when the POTUS is Republican but when there's a Democrat as president, they are right-wing (i.e. pro-war).

Is that what you are suggesting?

From where I'm sitting they're pro-war no matter who is president.

I agree that there is not enough coverage of anti-war protests but I thought that the last time too. The real reason for this is that war is generally good business for the corporations who own the news outlets that are still ludicrously, absurdly and idiotically referred to as liberal.

Alan makes a good point too. I marched and protested against the invasion of Iraq.
I have not marched or protested against an attack on Iran.
The main reason for this is that there is nowhere near the same level of certainty that Iran will be attacked.
However, even if it does reach that level, the futlity of the previous protests is still fresh in the minds of many people. Anyone in the UK who was not asleep knew it was trumped up nonsense and the biggest protest ever did nothing to stop it.
So, maybe I will protest but maybe I won't. We'll see.

It's no surprise that corporations are almost always in favour of war and it makes their job a whole lot easier when a huge chunk of society can't see beyond the end of their partisan noses.

On the other hand, for those of us who see war-mongering as something that transcends what team you support, the Democrat-Republican-blame-game-sideshow is simultaneously amusing and depressing.

It looks to me like you perceive anti-war protests to have been well covered last time because even the teency amount of coverage was too much for you, since the protests were against "your guy" (i.e. a Republican).

This time, you perceive the teency amount of anti-war coverage as insufficient because it's not enough for you since the protests are against "the other guy" (i.e. a Democrat).
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
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The media also writes obituary articles about well known people before their death as well. Of course you can pile this on to some mountain of evidence for some conspiracy, but really it's not. Everyone knows there's a high probability of war with Iran right now.
 
Glaucus said:
The media also writes obituary articles about well known people before their death as well. Of course you can pile this on to some mountain of evidence for some conspiracy, but really it's not. Everyone knows there's a high probability of war with Iran right now.
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The media likes to be ahead of the game a little, but doesn't like to waste money on stuff it doesn't need. They ARE a business. Obituaries are a sure thing. Every star will die. However, wars are not so certain. If the networks are throwing resources at a war then they are working under the assumption that there is a high probability. It could be that they are believing their own hype, since they are principles in the messaging advocating for war. They could also have an inside channel. Either way, it doesn't matter, because as an observation it is simply another indicator of the state of readiness and expectation of war.
 
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