It ain't just the Catholics

FluffyMcDeath said:
Any power (and religion brings power) and any closed society like the clergy can lead to abuses. It's not just the Catholics that protect their own.
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Indeed, although they're never far away from such headlines.

This one is fresh out today:
Cardinal Keith O'Brien 'accused of inappropriate acts'

Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric has been reported to the Vatican over claims of inappropriate behaviour going back 30 years, a newspaper says.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21563345
 
Robert said:
Indeed, although they're never far away from such headlines.
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It's merely indicative of the church's declining power in some places.

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O'Brien will not be voting for the new Pope:
Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, is stepping down as leader of the Scottish Catholic Church.
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I particularly like this bit:

For any good I have been able to do, I thank God. For any failures, I apologise to all whom I have offended."
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Good stuff = well played, Mr. God.
Bad stuff = nothing to do with God.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724
 
@Robert,

Yes a very typical response is God = Good and somehow while the creator of everything is in no way responsible for the evil part of creation. Heavily religious types are not good with the logic.

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Just to get this off my chest I had a run in with my brother recently. ( It seems the 2 of us split down the center with me being a staunch liberal atheist and my brother a right-wing Christian.) He posted some crap about Jesus supporting a little girl hiding behind the couch in the living room while her Daddy came home drunk shot and killed the Mom then turned the gun on himself. While in Foster Care the girl asked how the guy gets off the cross... (Other friends told me this was a rehash of some Country Western song BS.) .... My simple question to him was to explain how his all powerful God thought it a better choice to hide with the girl behind the couch instead of simply causing the gun to not fire or disappear it from it's location and replace it with a block of cheese. ... The answer was the typical - God works in mysterious ways. To no surprise he didn't want to hear that his version of God is an asshole.
 
Well, the logic goes that we're placed on this earth as a test. Isn't that why we're here on earth, and not in Eden, which is where we supposedly started off? So really, it makes little sense for god to jump in and save us when something bad is gonna happen because that's the true test we need to go through, to see how we behave in a time of hardship. It makes no sense that a god would ever help us, so why do the religious ones always talk about god's help when it's basically like asking a teacher to help you cheat on an exam? Well, it makes for a great selling feature. Religion is easy to sell when you throw in the occasional miracle as one of the benefits. It's like playing the lottery, except with no chance of winning and those selling the tickets know it.
 
faethor said:
@Robert,

Yes a very typical response is God = Good and somehow while the creator of everything is in no way responsible for the evil part of creation. Heavily religious types are not good with the logic.

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Just to get this off my chest I had a run in with my brother recently. ( It seems the 2 of us split down the center with me being a staunch liberal atheist and my brother a right-wing Christian.) He posted some crap about Jesus supporting a little girl hiding behind the couch in the living room while her Daddy came home drunk shot and killed the Mom then turned the gun on himself. While in Foster Care the girl asked how the guy gets off the cross... (Other friends told me this was a rehash of some Country Western song BS.) .... My simple question to him was to explain how his all powerful God thought it a better choice to hide with the girl behind the couch instead of simply causing the gun to not fire or disappear it from it's location and replace it with a block of cheese. ... The answer was the typical - God works in mysterious ways. To no surprise he didn't want to hear that his version of God is an asshole.
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all mens gods are assholes...

Glaucus said:
It's like playing the lottery, except with no chance of winning and those selling the tickets know it.
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well that and the quick shop clerk doesn't wanna touch my pee pee, they'll just have a dollar thanks... :D
 
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