Kroger CEO says food stamps usage doubled under Obama

most of us here saw this coming when bush was elected and started a dopey war(s)
 
cecilia said:
most of us here saw this coming when bush was elected and started a dopey war(s)
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And Obama's Porkulous made a bad situation far, far worse.
 
redrumloa said:
And Obama's Porkulous made a bad situation far, far worse.
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I'd disagree. It prevented the 2nd Republican caused Depression.
 
redrumloa said:
cecilia said:
most of us here saw this coming when bush was elected and started a dopey war(s)
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And Obama's Porkulous made a bad situation far, far worse.
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I would have to disagree there Jim. Well, ok, let me clarify. Do I think Obama is hitting a thousand? No. There are absolutely things that could be done better, but... I don't think -- considering that the current financial crisis is a direct cause of George W. Bush's policies -- that anyone (republican, democrat, whatever) could really do much better at fixing the damage than is already being done now.

You simply cannot go into two separate wars, 10,000 miles away and expect to survive financially, regardless of the corruption in the banking system. You want to cut the deficit spending by 100%? Drop two nuclear bombs and bring all of our troops and resources home.

Plate of glass time, God Bless Curtis LeMay.

Wayne
 
Wayne said:
You simply cannot go into two separate wars, 10,000 miles away and expect to survive financially, regardless of the corruption in the banking system. You want to cut the deficit spending by 100%?
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Well, I've been complaining about the pending "Downfall of Rome" since ~2006, which started under Bush. Besides the wars, which is a whole other subject, I've been complaining about Bush's domestic fiscal policies since ~05. Things are just getting worse and worse though. Porkulous, which is seperate from the bank bailouts, was the straw that broke the camels back. It didn't just do that, it flattened the camel. Obama added $1.5 TRILLION to the national debt in less than 18 months. Now he wants to pretend to be fiscally conservative? :roll:
 
when has Obama claimed to be "fiscally conservative"???

agree or disagree with his attempts but he has claimed to make BOLD actions to avert complete disaster. He may or may not succeed.

it's bush who CLEARLY was never a fiscally conservative. not on any level. he has ruined many a business way before he got to the white house. he's got a horrible tract record which is why I knew he would fail horribly as president

I knew in 2000 this country was in for a disaster. most americans were busy being asleep
 
cecilia said:
when has Obama claimed to be "fiscally conservative"???
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I believe early in the Obama term he showed spending highest the first year and lower every other year. Clearly he has been taking a trickle down economic approach by cutting taxes and giving more money to businesses. This has been the Republican model of economics for the last 30 years. I'm sure Obama is confused why Republicans don't like that idea. Reagan and the Bushes were clearly not fiscally conservative.

Certainly his spending was in an attempt to avert complete disaster. Bushes legacy, after 8 years, is no net job creation, a lowered worth value for the American family, and a landslide into Depression. IMO McMain would have done no better and likely much worse.

I knew in 2000 this country was in for a disaster. most americans were busy being asleep
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The alternative was Al Gore in 2000. He likely would have kept the Clinton era policies going. If he would have used the 850B surplus and then some, as Bush did, will be an arguement for debate as we'll never really know. Personally I think he would have used the surplus but not borrowed as much as Bush.

It's amazing after 8 years of Bush tax cuts that the economy isn't on fire. Afterall, Republicans told us again and again THAT is the solution. We have the lowest tax rate since the 1950s. Businesses should be screaming for laborers. We're also told how taxes must be low so businesses rehire labor. Businesses have had one of the most profitable years ever in the US. It came with lower taxes and without hiring. IMO taxes have been shown again and again to not be the answer. (At least at the level we're at, if taxes were 120% instead of 30% I think there'd be a problem.) No extending tax cuts period! If any more benefits for businesses come they should be tied directly to an increase of employees within the business.
 
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