Media blackout! Congressional Resolution: Impeachment of Barack Obama

As the Bush administration proved time and again, the power of the executive is near absolute.

This won't go far and I imagine that the blowback for the republicans will be on a scale never before seen.
 
Republicans spitting the dummy about misuse of military force?

Talk about dripping with irony.....

They remind me of the more unhinged section of Celtic F.C. supporters - embarrassed by nothing but offended by everything and completely shameless in their apparent lack of self awareness.
 
redrumloa said:
The impeachment of President Barack Hussein Obama has begun.
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The US has approved to be part of NATO and the UN. Libya was a multinational coalition in Libya. Obama didn't do this on his own. He did it the same way other past Presidents have done. Follow the contractual obligations established in prior years by the former Congress and former Presidents. This attempt makes Republicans look even more fringe. Obama is beatable. Republicans are their own worst enemy as they continue to flail.

The reason you don't see it in the MSM is like always news reporters are given permission on a story by right-wing editors. And the right-wing editors are responsible to make their right-wing bosses and their even farther right-wing bosses bosses look good. They know covering this is far more harmful to the right-wing than ignoring it.
 
the_leander said:
As the Bush administration proved time and again, the power of the executive is near absolute.

This won't go far and I imagine that the blowback for the republicans will be on a scale never before seen.
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Bzzzt, wrong but thanks for playing!
 
gawd... i hope now obama is reconsidering "looking forward instead of back", and right now helicopter teams are in standby mode as they encircle the homes of the last administration, who will be rounded up and turned over to the hague... they should take poppa bush too...
 
the_leander said:
As the Bush administration proved time and again, the power of the executive is near absolute.
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Noteably Bush handled Iraq differently. He ignored the US contract with the UN and ignored the UN orders. Instead he presented false information to Congress then had them vote on it, telling them all it's true. Okay not Bush but his Administration, which he is the one with the responsibility. Bush may have upheld the letter of the law but clearly not the honor.
 
redrumloa said:
Bzzzt, wrong but thanks for playing!
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Which part was wrong? That Bush's administration was pretty much legally bullet proof, or that the republican party will cop for it if they go after Obama in this manner?
 
the_leander said:
Which part was wrong? That Bush's administration was pretty much legally bullet proof, or that the republican party will cop for it if they go after Obama in this manner?
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Bush went to congress for their approval and got their approval. It is illegal for the POTUS to take orders from a foreign entity, it is textbook treason.
 
redrumloa said:
Bush went to congress for their approval and got their approval. It is illegal for the POTUS to take orders from a foreign entity, it is textbook treason.
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On the face of it, what you're saying is a nonsense. If it were the case, we wouldn't be extraditing many of your countrymen back to blighty off of the back of international agreements that previous administrations had signed up to, those treaties include the formation of NATO.

Your country has signed up to international agreements and treaties about many things, these agreements have been ratified by your congress and are legally valid.

Or are you claiming that these are only one way?
 
the_leander said:
On the face of it, what you're saying is a nonsense. If it were the case, we wouldn't be extraditing many of your countrymen back to blighty off of the back of international agreements that previous administrations had signed up to, those treaties include the formation of NATO.

Your country has signed up to international agreements and treaties about many things, these agreements have been ratified by your congress and are legally valid.

Or are you claiming that these are only one way?
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None of what you mention supersedes the Constitution.
 
redrumloa said:
Bush went to congress for their approval and got their approval.
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Bush lied to Congress, claimed it to be true, then got their approval. You are more then glossing over the clear and illegal manipulation of Congress.

It is illegal for the POTUS to take orders from a foreign entity, it is textbook treason.
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The War Powers resolution allows this as long as Congress is notified within 48 hours.
 
redrumloa said:
None of what you mention supersedes the Constitution.
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This would tend to suggest that treaties are perfectly legal.

Specifically:

American law is that international accords become part of the body of U.S. federal law.
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In short, he is not committing treason, any more than Bush was in allowing US citizens to be extradited to the UK before him.

All that is required is that the Senate, with a super majority, signs off on it, which it did for NATO on 4 April 1949 in Washington.
 
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