Mexico drug war deaths total 47,515; in unrelated news

The War on Drugs has cost society more than Drugs. PERIOD.
 
The War on Drugs has cost society more than Drugs. PERIOD.

I agree and I don't use drugs, lol. But the drug lords want it to remain illegal. I'm all for legalizing everything and let the states decide on what they will allow or not allow in their states. Long as the different states' DUI/BUI/FUI penalties are significantly increased to felony range
 
I agree and I don't use drugs, lol. But the drug lords want it to remain illegal. I'm all for legalizing everything and let the states decide on what they will allow or not allow in their states.
Newt, Romney and Santorum don't share your view.
 
Newt, Romney and Santorum don't share your view.

And? As a none drug user, it's not very high on my "must have" policy guideline. I'm holding my nose and voting for the most conservative running since there is no Tea Party candidate left. Now physically shutting down the US-MX border would go a very long way of limiting problems.
 
Good thing Eric Holder has been keeping the Mexican drug cartels well armed then :rolleyes:

5 policemen killed in Mexico City suburb

sorry, thats just your partisan pettiness trying to capitalize on time honored police techniques failing under the current administration in the hopes of blackening their eye a bit.... hell... where i live, the heart of a red state, cops and staties gave meth to a guy and allowed him free passage just so they could use him as a CI. he ended up killing his girlfriend with a 2X4 one night outside a trailer house. but hey dont worry... no cops were harmed since they were just following procedure...
 
sorry, thats just your partisan pettiness trying to capitalize on time honored police techniques failing under the current administration in the hopes of blackening their eye a bit.... hell... where i live, the heart of a red state, cops and staties gave meth to a guy and allowed him free passage just so they could use him as a CI. he ended up killing his girlfriend with a 2X4 one night outside a trailer house. but hey dont worry... no cops were harmed since they were just following procedure...

there were no tracking devices installed or other means to trace these guns (650 firearms, mainly AK-47 variants) the only purpose for letting these guns “walk” seems to be politics, an excuse for new gun-control laws.

The ATF told gun store owners to sell to suspicious people who wanted to buy AK-47s by the dozen.

ATF field agents were regularly ordered to abandon surveillance of suspicious gun purchases

at least 200 Mexican deaths can now be traced to weapons from the Fast and Furious program.

Who ever authorized fast and furious (Eric Holder) needs to do jail time
 
like operation wide receiver fellers too ?

If laws were broken, absolutely. Fast and Furious was Wide Receiver on steroids and clearly illegal since the intended target was in a foreign country that required State Dept permits.
 
And? As a none drug user, it's not very high on my "must have" policy guideline.

So you recognize that the drug war is a waste of your money, and that it increases violence in society and increases the danger to the police but it's not a big deal to you because you don't do drugs?
 
heres my point... illegal, incompetent, however you want to slice it, it doesnt really matter. its war. anything goes. and its been that way for a long time... they do all kinds of dumb stuff. who knows they may have had to trade those guns for captured mercenaries. wouldnt be the first time this government has traded arms for hostages.... now would it?
 
Active duty cop: ‘The war on drugs is a war on people’

“I did not get in law enforcement to destroy a person’s future because that person had marijuana or a pill in their pocket,” the officer explained. “Why would you want to destroy that person’s future and cause them great harm because of that? It’s not worth it.”
“I just didn’t see problems from illegal drug users that I’d been led to believe,” the officer explained. “Most of the calls that we get on drug use, as police, are alcohol related. Alcohol is a serious drug that can be abused, but I just didn’t see the calls on other drugs like I had been led to believe. I didn’t see these drug-crazed people out there doing crazy things…

“The cartels have been running a serious drug operation in America for decades, and I don’t think most Americans are really aware of it,” he said. “The money comes from the prohibition of drugs. These criminals are making their money because of the prohibition. If you legalize and regulate it, their profits go to zero.”


this shit has to stop now
 
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