Microsoft's Windows 7 Won't Be Any Better than Vista?

Ya, I'm curious to see what it'll be like as well. I've read a little bit about it, and it may in fact be an improvement, but to make me happy MS would need to throw most of it out and redesign it. That's just never gonna happen. I'll probably end up sticking with Windows though, mostly because I don't see Apple or Linux as any better. I think I'm still jaded from the whole Amiga experience.
 
redrumloa said:
http://www.minyanville.com/articles/windows-microsoft-apple-mac-PC-computers-software-users-operating-system-vista-engineers/index/a/25065/from/yahoo

The company has worked on various iterations for 20 years -- and never gotten it right.
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Interested to hear if any of you got Windows 7 and what your impressions are.
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I've been playing with the MSDN release of Windows 7 for about a month now. In short, it is a dramatic improvement over Vista in both speed and user friendliness. It also doesn't drag (resource wise) your computer (even older single core CPUs) down like Vista will. It also returns more compatibility (with older programs) than Vista did.

I've used Win XP for several years now (generally satisfied with it) and find Windows 7 to be enough of an improvement to upgrade.

All that being said, I am on a slow but steady path to migrating to MAC OS. I've got a MAC Pro laptop with Snow Leopard (10.6) and find it far superior to either XP or Win 7. The only reason I have not yet moved completely is there is still a lack of MAC native software that I routinely need to utilize. It really is (to me) as close to an Amiga as you can get these days.

Regards,
Ltstanfo
 
I've used both the Beta and MSDN version of Windows 7 Home Premium. While I must be the only person in the world that 64bit VISTA takes care of my need I find Win 7 much more enjoyable. This is on a single core 64bit machine for testing and general use. Win 7 is quicker and it doesn't have the same amount of annoying UAC's. As Win 7 runs the Vista 64bit drivers I expect many more people will find things 'just work' with Win 7. In part it's because developers don't have the amount of driver changes they had to do in the last version.

There are some cool things in there. Shake a window and everything else minimizes. Close the application from the preview pane. Burn an ISO (about time this comes out of the box.) Right Clicking is even more useful.


Ahh now to go home. I have a AMD 620 Quad Core waiting for insertion into my 780G motherboard and the dual core will take place of my last single core desktop. Along with the Win 7 upgrade I expect to have a fun filled weekend. So my main system is getting the upgrades this weekend.

Now if I could just get screen dragging back...
 
I heard they made major changes to the task bar and eliminated the quick launch. Any comments on that?
 
I heard from everyone Windows 7 works fine just as XP.
Fact is, XP maybe was more of a resource hog that the 16/32 bits windowses (95, 98 and ME), it's still much, much better than those latter. AFAIK they wanted a security system much like Linux in their windows, and that bites the backwards compatibility. Yes, backwards compatibility is the main advantage and disadvantage of Windows. Companies pay microsoft so the newest Windows will still be able to run shoddy DOS and Windows 3.11 programs. Apple solved(?) the backwards compatibility with including an emulator. Surely, a software giant like Microsoft is able to make a good emulator to ensure real 99%-100% backwards compatibility? Of course there's also the aspect backwards compatibility of the hardware drivers. but still... do we want that? Do we still want to print from old parallel connected printers while we can get a new printer for not much? (at least, we bought a new OS, didn't we?)
In the end there are so much drivers and combinations of installations that all those very tiny little bugs add up, and with that, all the cosmetic workarounds, to a plain unreliable system.
No, I want an OS designed from scratch, and designed for todays needs and hardware. And hardware designed for todays needs and possibilities.
 
Glaucus said:
I heard they made major changes to the task bar and eliminated the quick launch. Any comments on that?
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Meh.

Did they think about usage at all?
 
Glaucus said:
I heard they made major changes to the task bar and eliminated the quick launch. Any comments on that?
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Taskbar is changed. The 'Start Button' is the crystal/orb/ball whatever they call it. It's much more configurable - remove that annoying clock or add an even more annoying one. Many are calling it the Superbar, but I believe offically it's still the Task bar. Preview is improved. You can 'peek' where hovering will push the application to the front for a quick look. You can select if you want large or small icons.

If you hate it you can change it to the XP mode.

I haven't tried to re-add quick launch but I'd think it'd be fairly easy to do.
 
Speelgoedmannetje said:
? Of course there's also the aspect backwards compatibility of the hardware drivers. but still... do we want that? Do we still want to print from old parallel connected printers while we can get a new printer for not much? (at least, we bought a new OS, didn't we?)
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I agree at some point one just doesn't need to support the past any longer. I heard this in VISTA all the time. If your printer doesn't work perhaps it's time to hang up the Okidata Wheel Writer and get something new.

Though of course it can be frustating. VISTA for example I wanted to use my Jaz drive. The parallel port no longer worked. Luckily I stole a SCSI card from an old server and that worked with the Jaz. I haven't touched the Jaz in a couple of years the cost for an external HD instead along with the time savings just makes more sense.
 
Oh dear, Windows 7 crashes on live tv.

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblo ... nts/22825/

Epic fail: Microsoft’s Windows 7 crashes and burns on live TV as commentators laugh (with video)
Friday, October 23, 2009 - 08:43 AM EDT
Microsoft's Mojave-For-Real, Vista service pack, er, "Windows 7" was inflicted yesterday and a Japanese TV show checked it out. It's in Japanese, but no translation is necessary:
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I could be wrong but it looked like they were having issues with their touch screen. That lady was able to get it working with a mouse.
 
I only just experiend Vista quite recently. I was horrified when I bought a brand new super-fast quad-core thing to find Vista ran slower than my 6-year old PC with XP. I am also sceptical of the claims that Win7 is faster than Vista: many benchmarks and notable people still claim that Vista is faster than XP.

Despite being a former Amiga fanboy I quite like XP.
 
redrumloa said:
Oh dear, Windows 7 crashes on live tv.
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Could be worse.. You could logon as guest on your Mac and lose all your data.
 
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