Military choppers startle downtown Miami

[redrumloa]

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If this was a movie, it could be called Sleepless in Brickell.

Residents in the neighborhood saw and heard several military-style, “pitch-black” helicopters flying around and hovering on top of Brickell buildings Tuesday night and early Wednesday morning.

Turns out that it was a training exercize by Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force. In other words, a Homeland Security operation, that few other authorities apparently knew about, including the U.S. Coast Guard.

Lt. Russ Tippett, spokesman for the coast guard happens to live in Brickell, and said the choppers didn’t make it easy to sleep, as the drill went on for hours.

“It was extremely loud and annoying,’’ Tippett said, theorizing at first that it may have been a U.S. Customs Operation.

Miami-Dade Fire Rescue didn’t know about it, referring media calls to the City of Miami’s Fire Rescue. A spokesman there assumed it was a film shoot.

Sgt. Bill Williams, who oversaw the operation for the Miami-Dade Police Department, was not immediately available for details.

“I couldn’t see them a lot of the time, but I could hear them because there are echoes around the buildings,” said Neilson Paty, who lives in Brickell Bay. “We see helicopters every day, but it was very obvious that these are not tourist or U.S. Coast Guard helicopters.”

A Miami police spokesman said the helicopters were conducting an “operational” training drill. He was not allowed to comment on details of the drill.

Paty said he is understanding of the city having its reasons to not inform residents about the drill and that he is not upset for not getting any alerts of the commotion.

“It was loud enough to wake up some people, but it wasn’t overwhelming enough to disturb the peace or something like that,” he said.

On Tuesday, Miami police officers in Brickell said that it was all part of a planned Homeland Security exercise, but confusion about the helicopters was rampant about 6 a.m. Wednesday.

It all began about 9:15 p.m. Tuesday, when at least three large Black Hawk-like choppers landed in a parking lot of the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts on Biscayne Boulevard and 14th Street.

The choppers then charged over the Brickell and Miami river area. Men who appeared to be SWAT team members were also seen taking part in the exercise.

Witnesses were tweeting as the event unfolded.

"Three choppers just dropped a group of men on top of the Bank of America building in Brickell," tweeted a man identified as Ianik Drouin, about 9:45 p.m.

"I just saw one of the brickell choppers turn so quickly, it had to go sideways," tweeted Sarah Elles about midnight.

Diana Pedroni also had trouble sleeping.

"Oh not again! #brickellchoppers flying on top of my building," tweeted Pedroni about midnight.

About 1 a.m., Eddie Prieto was surprised to find out he may have to endure more of it for the rest of the month.

"Five more niths? Boo! RT @Brickellinfo #DoD will be conducting drills through April 25th," tweeted Prieto about 1 a.m.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Marines are training in LA.

They aren't allowed to shoot anyone though. They are just observing arrests and gaining hearts and minds.

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[redrumloa]

Marines are training in LA.

They aren't allowed to shoot anyone though. They are just observing arrests and gaining hearts and minds.

There is something just not right at play here... The gentleman I have been talking with the last 2 days had an interesting take and angle. The best way to hide something is to have it in plain sight. Makes you wonder what the connection between this and the FEMA camps are if any. That is no conspiracy, there is a connection.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The gentleman I have been talking with the last 2 days had an interesting take and angle. The best way to hide something is to have it in plain sight. Makes you wonder what the connection between this and the FEMA camps are if any. That is no conspiracy, there is a connection.

Did we mention that our Prime Minister is spending money building a load of new prisons at a time when the crime rate is historically low? Did we mention that Canada and the US have a bilateral agreement (signed in secret but since revealed) that allows US soldiers to police civil unrest in Canada and Canadian soldiers to police civil unrest in the US?

Did I not say before that "conspiracy theory" is a catch-all put down for even things that are patently not conspiracies but are uncomfortable facts and the words simply mean "if you talk about this people won't listen and they'll think you're crazy". That's all it is, a tool to prevent people from discussing things.

Also, U.S. Government Printing Office Needs 350,934 National Detainee Handbooks Printed by 29 April 2011 ... for ... some ... reason.

During the 30's when things got bad there were outbreaks of unrest and unruly mobs. It may just be simple prudent planning for such a thing but I wouldn't expect a government to say such a thing when panic and unrest is exactly what they would hope to avoid. But if that is what is being prepared for then someone somewhere knows more than they are telling about how far gone things really are.

 

[redrumloa]

The gentleman I have been talking with the last 2 days had an interesting take and angle. The best way to hide something is to have it in plain sight. Makes you wonder what the connection between this and the FEMA camps are if any. That is no conspiracy, there is a connection.

Did we mention that our Prime Minister is spending money building a load of new prisons at a time when the crime rate is historically low? Did we mention that Canada and the US have a bilateral agreement (signed in secret but since revealed) that allows US soldiers to police civil unrest in Canada and Canadian soldiers to police civil unrest in the US?

Did I not say before that "conspiracy theory" is a catch-all put down for even things that are patently not conspiracies but are uncomfortable facts and the words simply mean "if you talk about this people won't listen and they'll think you're crazy". That's all it is, a tool to prevent people from discussing things.

Also, U.S. Government Printing Office Needs 350,934 National Detainee Handbooks Printed by 29 April 2011 ... for ... some ... reason.

During the 30's when things got bad there were outbreaks of unrest and unruly mobs. It may just be simple prudent planning for such a thing but I wouldn't expect a government to say such a thing when panic and unrest is exactly what they would hope to avoid. But if that is what is being prepared for then someone somewhere knows more than they are telling about how far gone things really are.

Just how screwed are we is the question? What will be the catalyst? Real life hyper-inflation? Nuclear terrorism? WWIII? Big Brother on crack?

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Just how screwed are we is the question? What will be the catalyst? Real life hyper-inflation? Nuclear terrorism? WWIII? Big Brother on crack?

How about when you go to the grocery store and there's nothing there. Food has been tight and expensive around the world for the last couple of years. The US has been protected because it produces a lot of its own food and it is rich compared to most of the world so can buy food away from hungry people. Grain reserves were down to something like 40 days in 2008 and I have no idea what they are now except that the prairies had a bad spring and the south had a drought (and unusually cold weather). If the US dollar starts to fail then what food there is here could end up getting exported to places that maybe have a lot of people and a lot of US dollars, maybe.

People can put up with a lot of crap but four or five days hungry gets people really upset. People like Jim Rogers are pouring money into food commodities so even if production is adequate the speculators could push up food prices 25% or 50% over the next year somewhat like what happened with gasoline - but people can get by without gasoline.

 

[redrumloa]

How about when you go to the grocery store and there's nothing there. Food has been tight and expensive around the world for the last couple of years. The US has been protected because it produces a lot of its own food and it is rich compared to most of the world so can buy food away from hungry people. Grain reserves were down to something like 40 days in 2008 and I have no idea what they are now except that the prairies had a bad spring and the south had a drought (and unusually cold weather). If the US dollar starts to fail then what food there is here could end up getting exported to places that maybe have a lot of people and a lot of US dollars, maybe.

People can put up with a lot of crap but four or five days hungry gets people really upset. People like Jim Rogers are pouring money into food commodities so even if production is adequate the speculators could push up food prices 25% or 50% over the next year somewhat like what happened with gasoline - but people can get by without gasoline.

The US has the natural resourced to produce as much food as needed given the will of government, if that will is there. It sounds like you really think the worst for sinister intent.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The US has the natural resourced to produce as much food as needed given the will of government, if that will is there. It sounds like you really think the worst for sinister intent.

It's not really up to the government any more. The government has tied its own hands by signing trade agreements that dictate the food goes to the guys who can bid the highest price (which is why other poor countries that COULD feed themselves end up starving). The "market" will not be interfered with - but worse than that - if investors speculate up the price of food then the government will stand behind them to protect their profits.

 

[faethor]

Marines are training in LA.

They aren't allowed to shoot anyone though. They are just observing arrests and gaining hearts and minds.

There is something just not right at play here... The gentleman I have been talking with the last 2 days had an interesting take and angle. The best way to hide something is to have it in plain sight. Makes you wonder what the connection between this and the FEMA camps are if any. That is no conspiracy, there is a connection.

IMO it's likely Rick Scott 'practicing' his next "good policy" for Florida.

 

[Glaucus]

It's not really up to the government any more. The government has tied its own hands by signing trade agreements that dictate the food goes to the guys who can bid the highest price (which is why other poor countries that COULD feed themselves end up starving). The "market" will not be interfered with - but worse than that - if investors speculate up the price of food then the government will stand behind them to protect their profits.

It's hard to fathom that the US would run out of food, as you suggested a few posts back. Regardless of what agreements they made, they would always reserve food for their home turf. However, prices may double.

But I wouldn't worry too much just yet. The prairies went through worse in 1997 and we all didn't starve to death. In terms of agriculture I think we're under developed here in Canada. With more incentive, we could up production. The problem isn't the supply.

 

[faethor]

It's hard to fathom that the US would run out of food, as you suggested a few posts back. Regardless of what agreements they made, they would always reserve food for their home turf. However, prices may double.

I'd have to look up the exact year but it was during the Bush Administration when the US began importing more food than it exports. But, hey it's a free market now. So if all farmers grow corn (cuz that's where the best out was last year) guess what US Citizens will end up eating for the next year?

Food 'problems' around the world are not supply based, however. They are political based.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

But I wouldn't worry too much just yet. The prairies went through worse in 1997 and we all didn't starve to death. In terms of agriculture I think we're under developed here in Canada. With more incentive, we could up production. The problem isn't the supply.

With the slight wrinkle that you can't eat next year's crop today (one big difference between "money" and "reality").

But, as I said above, mere production is not adequate.

In 1974 in Bangladesh the price of rice went up 300% in a country of 75 million with a large number of poor people. During the famine it's estimated that over 1 million people died. The most interesting thing about that episode, from my perspective, and the reason I bring it up, is that the famine occurred at a time when the rice supply was adequate to feed the population and the crop had actually been relatively good. What doomed so many people to death was that the economy was a shambles and speculators stepped in to blow a big bubble in food prices making it impossible for landless poor people already financially strapped to feed themselves.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Military ... 0/Y/M.html

"Courtesy Patrol."

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

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