More Middle Class Taxes?

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Well, according to (Canada) Yahoo there will be some "backdoor taxes" on the middle class in Obama's proposed 2010 budget. This news is based on a Reuters article.

Curiously, the original (US) Reuters article has been withdrawn with a "followup article" to run later this week. Whyzzat? :?

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ltstanfo said:
Curiously, the original (US) Reuters article has been withdrawn with a "followup article" to run later this week. Whyzzat? :?

Reuters is a subsidiary of the DNC.
 
Here is what I have found of the story. It's not much more than I've seen put out in other places.
to wit:

Backdoor taxes to hit middle class

-The Obama administration's plan to cut more than $1 trillion from the deficit over the next decade relies heavily on so-called backdoor tax increases that will result in a bigger tax bill for middle-class families.

In the 2010 budget tabled by President Barack Obama on Monday, the White House wants to let billions of dollars in tax breaks expire by the end of the year -- effectively a tax hike by stealth.

While the administration is focusing its proposal on eliminating tax breaks for individuals who earn $250,000 a year or more, middle-class families will face a slew of these backdoor increases.

The targeted tax provisions were enacted under the Bush administration's Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001. Among other things, the law lowered individual tax rates, slashed taxes on capital gains and dividends, and steadily scaled back the estate tax to zero in 2010.

If the provisions are allowed to expire on December 31, the top-tier personal income tax rate will rise to 39.6 percent from 35 percent. But lower-income families will pay more as well: the 25 percent tax bracket will revert back to 28 percent; the 28 percent bracket will increase to 31 percent; and the 33 percent bracket will increase to 36 percent. The special 10 percent bracket is eliminated.

i.e. "backdoor taxes" means letting the emergency tax cuts lapse and go back to the old rate. Therefore, shills yell this is a de facto tax increase and it hits the middle class. This is like saying that when a store ends its sale they are putting the prices up.

If the tax cuts are allowed to lapse then the middle class will be hit by a small amount - an amount pretty much equivalent to the puny amount which they received in the cuts - an amount that paled next to the cuts that the wealthy received.

Remember that when your top bracket goes up that is your last dollar rate, not the rate that applies to all of your income. i.e. if you earn 34,100 dollars then the first $34,000 are still taxed at 15% and the last $100 is taxed at 25% (or 28% under the old rate). So the difference in your taxes is 3 bucks. The more you make, the bigger the difference as you span more tax brackets that each are increasing. If you are unfortunate enough to make $373,650 a year you will see a fair bit of difference.

--edit--

The figures above apply to your TAXABLE income of course, that is the amount of your income after deductions.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
If you are unfortunate enough to make $373,650 a year you will see a fair bit of difference.
If you make $373K you are NOT middle-class.
 
redrumloa said:
faethor said:
If you make $373K you are NOT middle-class.

Not before taxes, at least.

Not even after. About 1.5% of American households have incomes of $250k and up. The national median is about $44k. If your household income is 80k and up your aren't really in the "middle" class any more.

It's hard to find stats for incomes higher than $250k but the way the curve goes asymptotic there are probably less than 1 in a hundred households with income like $373k.

By the time you are in the real money like a million and a half a year there are only about 150,000 households in the nation that make that or more.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
redrumloa said:
faethor said:
If you make $373K you are NOT middle-class.

Not before taxes, at least.

Not even after. About 1.5% of American households have incomes of $250k and up. The national median is about $44k. If your household income is 80k and up your aren't really in the "middle" class any more.

It's hard to find stats for incomes higher than $250k but the way the curve goes asymptotic there are probably less than 1 in a hundred households with income like $373k.

By the time you are in the real money like a million and a half a year there are only about 150,000 households in the nation that make that or more.
Are those stats based on households or individuals?
 
Glaucus said:
Are those stats based on households or individuals?

The answer is "yes" :)

I tried to stay with household but I was dashing through a lot of stats. It also matters what year too. 2007 median household income was $50,233.00 apparently.

However, as you get further up the income scale household and individual incomes converge because rich guys wives don't work. (and nor do their mistresses)
 
faethor said:
FluffyMcDeath said:
If you are unfortunate enough to make $373,650 a year you will see a fair bit of difference.
If you make $373K you are NOT middle-class.
right! the word "unfortunate": should never be used with anyone making THAT kind of money!!! :lol:

I wish to be so unfortunate
 
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