Obama governs like Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe etc

[redrumloa]

Obama: Water for Votes and Other Atrocities

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21185

Obama has now joined the likes of all other despots who have ever walked and practiced their tyrannies upon planet Earth. Tyrants like Sadaam Hussein, Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong-il and Fidel Castro are now unequivocally united with the US Usurper and Dictator-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama in their complete and total subjugation of their countries peoples.

Obama turned off the spigots in California’s Central Valley in order to destroy crops, fruit trees, farmers’ livelihoods etc. in that once extremely fertile and productive area and to give him a large hammer to use against all of us who eat food and drink water. Obama affected this by design and on purpose first and foremost to observe whether or not he could get away with it—without violent uprisings from We-the-People—and second to begin his totalitarian control and oppression of the American people; control that now extends to controlling the water allocations—for Obama’s own personal support issues—and ultimately (as did the genocidal Josef Stalin) our country’s food supplies.

Note: This time, Obama agreed to turn on the water—now known as “Obama’s Water”—by 25% if Democrat California Congressmen Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza voted for ObamaCare. They did. Next time, it will be far worse for any and all who do not support The Obama.

After Obama has shoved ObamaCare down the throats of the American people, the next steps will be an Obama fast-track program for Amnesty for Illegals (in order to shore up more new illegal votes to counter the massive legal votes to be cast against Obama and his willing Congressional minions), Cap & Trade (to make it impossible for the once middle and now forced into lower-class Americans to afford electricity) and any other oppressive program The Obama chooses to implement against We-the-People. In other words, Obama and the Marxists now in power in Washington D.C. have said—increasingly in ‘no uncertain terms’: “If you oppose us, we will crush you!” And they have.

Make no mistake, folks. Obama is ending our Republic as quickly and completely as possible. By the way, I’m still waiting for those additional “peaceful means” to stop these atrocities and their perpetrators. Thus far, I can still hear the proverbial pins dropping.

 

[Glaucus]

Watching Republicans squirm is so darned entertaining. Gotta love it, even if it is like laughing at a retarded kid puking feces all over itself.

 

[redrumloa]

Watching Republicans squirm is so darned entertaining. Gotta love it, even if it is like laughing at a retarded kid puking feces all over itself.

Why do you target Republicans when no democrats are happy either? This is government against the people.

Also why do you make such a comment instead of remarking on the details of the post? Do you think withholding water or food is good way to govern?

 

[Glaucus]

Why do you target Republicans when no democrats are happy either?

If the are unhappy it's for totally different reasons. Democrats are unhappy because the bill didn't go far enough. And the reason it didn't is because the Republicans did everything they could to water down the bill.

 

[Wayne]

I wonder sincerely how much of this vitriolic hatred is sincere versus the usual (and human nature) fear of change.

After all, no one really knows the truth about the numbers or the effect on anything just yet. Not the CBO nor any other office that can make shit up to suit their numbers.

I get the overall feeling that this is what the Canadians and other countries around the world felt like when they went to socialized medicine came about.

Hatred, fear, discontent, etc...

I'm not suggesting what the government (not We the People) have done is good in any way. Just thinking about the mob mentality that's forming and it's rationale in general. Especially in light of the fact that there are no real facts yet available. Sure, each side is presenting their own facts, but they're mutually exclusive and I'm sure the truth is actually somewhere in the middle.

Wayne

 

[redrumloa]

Why do you target Republicans when no democrats are happy either?

If the are unhappy it's for totally different reasons. Democrats are unhappy because the bill didn't go far enough. And the reason it didn't is because the Republicans did everything they could to water down the bill.

That is a funny spin, did it come from Obama's own website? We in the USA have a thing called the Consititution. That may not mean much to a Canadian, but some of us Americans think it should be followed.

 

[Glaucus]

I get the overall feeling that this is what the Canadians and other countries around the world felt like when they went to socialized medicine came about.

I posted this before, but this seems like a great place to post it again: Tea Party, Canada-Style! America's battle over health care reform started in Saskatchewan.

 

[redrumloa]

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/dieckmann/100322

What special deals and bribes were used to convince Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, John Bocciere of Ohio, Bart Gordon of Tennessee, Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza of California, and Allen Boyd and Suzanne Kosmas of Florida, to switch their votes from no to yes on Friday? It is still the same bill that it was on Thursday when they opposed it.

We know Dennis Kucinich sold his vote for a ride on Air Force 1. Bart Gordon sold his vote for the promise of a job as NASA Administrator. Luis Gutierrez sold out his Catholic beliefs for a promise from Obama to pursue legalization of illegal aliens who have invaded our country.

Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza of California have switched their vote from no to yes on the bill. Well, actually they are not voting for the healthcare bill. They are voting to have the irrigation water turned back on in their Central California districts, which was shut off last year by the Obama Administration to "save the Delta smelt fish."

This move, which has destroyed California farming and put tens of thousands out of work, is now being used by Obama and Pelosi to control our food supply and buy votes for his Marxist agenda.

 

[Glaucus]

Btw Red, you may want to do some research before posting shit like that. For one, the "spigots" were turned of for the last three years due to drought. And if you've forgotten already, we've seen a lot more snow this past winter then most people ever remember. This means the water reserves across the country should be replenished. Here's a more factual account of what happened there:

Desperate California to get more water at last

(Reuters) - Drought-stricken farmers and cities across California were granted a measure of relief on Friday when federal and state officials said they expected to supply significantly more water this year than last.

The announcements came as welcome news in the nation's No. 1 farm state, where dramatic cutbacks in water deliveries by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and the state Water Resources Department had idled thousands of farm workers and 300,000 acres of cropland.

Shortages have also forced cities and counties to ration water, raise rates and impose strict mandatory conservation measures that turned lawns brown and left cars unwashed.

But a series of strong winter storms that could mark the end of a three-year drought has left several feet of snow on the Sierra Nevada mountain range that serves as California's principal source of surface water.

In light of that deluge, this year the Bureau of Reclamation will supply most California users with 100 percent of the water they are contracted to receive, U.S. Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said.

Irrigation districts south of the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta, which represent farmers on the west side of the state's Central Valley, would get 30 percent of their allotment, or three times more than last year.

The Central Valley is one of the country's most important agricultural regions, and the state produces more than half of the fruits, vegetables and nuts grown in the United States.

Separately, California officials said they were increasing the amount of water they expected to deliver from the State Water Project this year from 5 to 15 percent of normal.

If average precipitation continues for the rest of the winter, a California Department of Water Resources spokesman said, the state's finally allocation for the year could rise to 35-45 percent of requested amounts.

NOT OUT OF THE WOODS

"This is an important step for California and San Joaquin Valley farmers," Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said in a written statement.

"I raised this critical issue during my meeting with President Obama this week, and am very glad to see this action from his administration...," he said. "Now we must direct our attention to the long-term improvement of our water infrastructure to avoid these year-to-year uncertainties."

Meanwhile state water officials said that California's long struggle to supply its people with water was not over.

"After three years of drought conditions and a number of mandated pumping restrictions, even a wet year won't get us out of the woods," Department of Water Resources Director Mark Cowin said. "We need increased conservation, a more reliable water delivery system and a comprehensive solution for California's water crisis."

Where does it say in there that Obama turned off the spigots? Or that they were turned on because of health care. If it didn't snow like it did this winter, they'd most likely have stayed off. Now maybe you'll better understand my recent comparison of Republicans to "retards puking feces".

 

[ilwrath]

Oh, why introduce a logical article into this mess? Of COURSE Obama has a giant red spigot in his office, it's right next to the nice red button for launching the nukes, which he was planning on using against the next people who oppose his legislation.

 

[cecilia]

Btw Red, you may want to do some research before posting shit like that. For one, the "spigots" were turned of for the last three years due to drought. And if you've forgotten already, we've seen a lot more snow this past winter then most people ever remember. This means the water reserves across the country should be replenished. Here's a more factual account of what happened there:

Desperate California to get more water at last

(Reuters) - Drought-stricken farmers and cities across California were granted a measure of relief on Friday when federal and state officials said they expected to supply significantly more water this year than last.

The announcements came as welcome news in the nation's No. 1 farm state, where dramatic cutbacks in water deliveries by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and the state Water Resources Department had idled thousands of farm workers and 300,000 acres of cropland.

Shortages have also forced cities and counties to ration water, raise rates and impose strict mandatory conservation measures that turned lawns brown and left cars unwashed.

But a series of strong winter storms that could mark the end of a three-year drought has left several feet of snow on the Sierra Nevada mountain range that serves as California's principal source of surface water.

In light of that deluge, this year the Bureau of Reclamation will supply most California users with 100 percent of the water they are contracted to receive, U.S. Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said.

Irrigation districts south of the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta, which represent farmers on the west side of the state's Central Valley, would get 30 percent of their allotment, or three times more than last year.

The Central Valley is one of the country's most important agricultural regions, and the state produces more than half of the fruits, vegetables and nuts grown in the United States.

Separately, California officials said they were increasing the amount of water they expected to deliver from the State Water Project this year from 5 to 15 percent of normal.

If average precipitation continues for the rest of the winter, a California Department of Water Resources spokesman said, the state's finally allocation for the year could rise to 35-45 percent of requested amounts.

NOT OUT OF THE WOODS

"This is an important step for California and San Joaquin Valley farmers," Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said in a written statement.

"I raised this critical issue during my meeting with President Obama this week, and am very glad to see this action from his administration...," he said. "Now we must direct our attention to the long-term improvement of our water infrastructure to avoid these year-to-year uncertainties."

Meanwhile state water officials said that California's long struggle to supply its people with water was not over.

"After three years of drought conditions and a number of mandated pumping restrictions, even a wet year won't get us out of the woods," Department of Water Resources Director Mark Cowin said. "We need increased conservation, a more reliable water delivery system and a comprehensive solution for California's water crisis."

Where does it say in there that Obama turned off the spigots? Or that they were turned on because of health care. If it didn't snow like it did this winter, they'd most likely have stayed off. Now maybe you'll better understand my recent comparison of Republicans to "retards puking feces".

after living in LA for years I can tell you all that droughts are NOT unusual there. Not at all.

 

[redrumloa]

@mike

News from before the Obama water bribe:

http://thepacker.com/m/story.asp?sect=n ... tId=994309

Despite the wettest California fall-winter season in four years and with yet another major storm moving into the state, the federal Bureau of Reclamation's initial 2010 water delivery forecast calls for water service contractors to receive just 5% of contracted quantities.

Three years of drought and court ordered restrictions on pumping forced the fallowing of more than 500,000 acres in the San Joaquin Valley in 2009.

2009? Hmm....

Further frustrating growers is the area’s five-year average for federal agriculture water allocation is 57%, according to the bureau’s own records, and National Weather Service statistics show the rainfall total in Fresno is nearly 10% above the season-to-date average.

The 5% forecast means most growers will be unable to get bank loans to purchase seed, fertilizers and other chemicals and to prepare the fields for planting, Woolf said.

“You cannot get a bank loan on 5%; you can on 30%,” she said. “People will not be put back to work at 5%; workers will be hired at 30%.”

Putting farmworkers back on the job is particularly important to the west side communities of Huron, Mendota and San Joaquin where the unemployment rate exceeds 40%.

Oh gee!! Then we have restrictions loosened just 2 days before the health care vote, in which 2 California Congressmen flipped from no to yes. Just a coincidence, for sure! :roll:

 

[Glaucus]

Oh gee!! Then we have restrictions loosened just 2 days before the health care vote, in which 2 California Congressmen flipped from no to yes. Just a coincidence, for sure! :roll:

So then we agree that Obama never did turn off the spigots (as your article claims) in the first place. Great.

Now, as for turning them on, we have this:

Science justifies California water limits

Dramatic cutbacks in water deliveries by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and state Water Resources Department have idled thousands of farm workers and large swaths of farmland. The crisis prompted U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, to propose easing the environmental restrictions to allow the pumping of more water for growers.

Feinstein came under fire from environmental activists, fishing groups and even members of her own party. She dropped the plan after state and federal agencies, citing a series of strong winter storms that may signal the end of the drought, announced they would supply farms considerably more water this year than last.

Lawmakers have said they would await the National Academy of Sciences report, which was ordered by the Obama administration, before making further policy decisions.

On Tuesday, U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said irrigation districts south of the delta, which represent farmers on the west side of the state's fertile Central Valley, will get 25 percent of their contracted water allotment from the Bureau of Reclamation, up from just 5 percent in February.

Sure, there's much to speculate here. However, you could just as easily speculate that Obama forced the National Academy of Science to give the farmers more water then they otherwise would have. There's no question that there has been some give and take to pass the health care reform bill, but once you consider that due to it's high profile nature it was the individual congress members who had the veto power over the bill you should also realize that it was they who had the power to dictate their terms to the White House, not so much the other way around. In other words if there was pressure applied in these negotiations it was most likely applied to Obama as he was desperate to get people on board. Knowing this, it would make sense for congress men to expect something in return.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

@mike

Oh gee!! Then we have restrictions loosened just 2 days before the health care vote, in which 2 California Congressmen flipped from no to yes. Just a coincidence, for sure! :roll:

He certainly is a skilled politician. While no-one actually likes the bill it is a huge victory and speaks to the power of the team - which probably bodes well for the rest of his agenda. There is enormous capital in that and Obama will have much more bargaining powers now. Wonder if he'll get killed?

There is already at least one fix-it bill in play. Curious to see what's in it - but there will be other things he will do too. Since he can pass this bill while having a spat with Israel shows Israel that their ability to hurt Obama through their media agents is not as effective as they had hoped and Bibi is blowing a fit. The US telling Israel what to do would be a complete reversal of the relationship under Dubya - just for instance.

 

[redrumloa]

Watching Republicans squirm is so darned entertaining. Gotta love it, even if it is like laughing at a retarded kid puking feces all over itself.

Poll: 79% Say U.S. Economy Could Collapse
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03 ... -collapse/

Most American voters believe it’s possible the nation’s economy could collapse, and majorities don’t think elected officials in Washington have ideas for fixing it.

The latest Fox News poll finds that 79 percent of voters think it’s possible the economy could collapse, including large majorities of Democrats (72 percent), Republicans (84 percent) and independents (80 percent).

Just 18 percent think the economy is "so big and strong it could never collapse."

Moreover, 78 percent of voters believe the federal government is "larger and more costly" than it has ever been before, and by nearly three-to-one more voters think the national debt (65 percent) is a greater potential threat to the country’s future than terrorism (23 percent).

So much for your theory that it is Republicans squirmng. What we have is a government AGAINST the people. Almost no Americans like this, even on Whyzzat I see exacly one person openly defending the bill. That person is a Canadian.

 

[Robert]

Watching Republicans squirm is so darned entertaining. Gotta love it, even if it is like laughing at a retarded kid puking feces all over itself.

Poll: 79% Say U.S. Economy Could Collapse
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03 ... -collapse/

Most American voters believe it’s possible the nation’s economy could collapse, and majorities don’t think elected officials in Washington have ideas for fixing it.

The latest Fox News poll finds that 79 percent of voters think it’s possible the economy could collapse, including large majorities of Democrats (72 percent), Republicans (84 percent) and independents (80 percent).

Just 18 percent think the economy is "so big and strong it could never collapse."

Moreover, 78 percent of voters believe the federal government is "larger and more costly" than it has ever been before, and by nearly three-to-one more voters think the national debt (65 percent) is a greater potential threat to the country’s future than terrorism (23 percent).

So much for your theory that it is Republicans squirmng. What we have is a government AGAINST the people. Almost no Americans like this, even on Whyzzat I see exacly one person openly defending the bill. That person is a Canadian.

I'm not disputing the results but I would point out that using a "Fox News" poll to illustrate what Democrats supposedly think is, to say the least, open to question. (In fact using a Fox poll to illustrate anything is questionable but that's a slightly different point.)

 

[redrumloa]

I'm not disputing the results but I would point out that using a "Fox News" poll to illustrate what Democrats supposedly think is, to say the least, open to question. (In fact using a Fox poll to illustrate anything is questionable but that's a slightly different point.)

At least Fox News is not a mouthpiece for the DNC, like MSNBC.

 

[Robert]

I'm not disputing the results but I would point out that using a "Fox News" poll to illustrate what Democrats supposedly think is, to say the least, open to question. (In fact using a Fox poll to illustrate anything is questionable but that's a slightly different point.)

At least Fox News is not a mouthpiece for the DNC, like MSNBC.

That all you got?
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[Glaucus]

Most American voters believe it’s possible the nation’s economy could collapse, and majorities don’t think elected officials in Washington have ideas for fixing it.

The latest Fox News poll finds that 79 percent of voters think it’s possible the economy could collapse, including large majorities of Democrats (72 percent), Republicans (84 percent) and independents (80 percent).

Just 18 percent think the economy is "so big and strong it could never collapse."

If the choices were A) The economy could collapse or B) the economy could never collapse, only a fool would pick B as it's ridiculous to say it could NEVER collapse. Seems to me like Fox went well out of it's way to make things look worse then they need to. Which makes it a poll I would likely completely ignore.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

At least Fox News is not a mouthpiece for the DNC, like MSNBC.

Fox News is a mouthpiece for Rupert Murdoch and whoever can help him make more money. It's a tool for advancing the political and financial power of Murdoch and they don't give a damn if anything they say is true or not - just so long as it fits the politics of Murdoch.

Nonetheless it doesn't have unlimited power. It couldn't get Rudy the Oval Office (thank goodness) or even stop Obama from getting in nor could it even stop the Healthcare bill. Hopefully they will also fail to get Palin into the White House. But it's not like they won't try.