Obama official cites .. Karl Marx. No, really.

FluffyMcDeath said:
I like how they make a big deal out of the fact that Marx said it and ignore the fact that what was quoted is true and uncontroversial. This just illustrates that it is a programmed fear of stereotypical boogie men instead of rational thought that spurs the armies of the right wing.
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But it was quoted and attributed to Marx, big difference. You can spin it all you want, but you can't hide the fact Karl Marx was specifically quoted intentionally.
 
Dammy said:
But it was quoted and attributed to Marx, big difference. You can spin it all you want, but you can't hide the fact Karl Marx was specifically quoted intentionally.
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so? a lot of psychiatric principal is based on the rantings of a "cocaine fueled madman", your point is? occasionally even the chronically wrong get one thing right?
 
so, let me get this right:

some guy (not Obama, just Some guy) quotes Marx to explain an idea Within a public discussion about, oh, IDEAS.

and suddenly this makes him a pinko, commie??

ok, I'll go find a copy of Mein Kampf , quote a sentence and I'll bet some asshole here will call me a fascist. :rolleyes:
wow, that's reaching
 
Dammy said:
But it was quoted and attributed to Marx, big difference.
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I suspect that it was probably attributed to Marx because he said it. That's just a guess though.
You can spin it all you want, but you can't hide the fact Karl Marx was specifically quoted intentionally.
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You could think of it as him sending a scary message specifically to those like you who are astute enough to detect the commies under every bed - maybe because he thinks it funny to watch you piss yourself and shriek like a little girl - or... wait, perhaps he was quoting an economist who was describing an inarguable conflict in the relations between labour and capital.

It's like labour wants to get a good price for its work and capital wants as much work as possible for the lowest price - and whoever has the most power gets the best deal. Hardly crazy talk. Capital completely understands this dynamic. Labour has forgotten to a large degree and capital only wishes that more would forget.

In this kind of world unemployment is a good thing. Long term unemployment with no medical is even better. It scares the people who still have jobs into working as long as they are asked and accepting cuts in compensation instead of raises. The elites are very happy that there are so many unemployed and that they make such a good warning to those still employed. In the long term I'm sure they hope that they will be able to pay Americans the same as they pay Indonesian.

Yes, he quotes Marx because Marx is one of the few economists who paid this as much attention as it deserves and Marx did predict, over a hundred years ago, the state of the world economy today. The scary thing about Marx, though, is that he wrote about these things and that drives the elites nuts. If too many people people catch on it will undermine the power of the elites. I'm sure they could adapt to a communist form of government if they had to but the party bosses never had the wealth and power that the oligarchs amassed.
 
cecilia said:
so, let me get this right:

some guy (not Obama, just Some guy) quotes Marx to explain an idea Within a public discussion about, oh, IDEAS.

and suddenly this makes him a pinko, commie??

ok, I'll go find a copy of Mein Kampf , quote a sentence and I'll bet some asshole here will call me a fascist. :rolleyes:
wow, that's reaching
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actually.... half the people here would discuss mein kampf with you on its merits, and it would be most stimulating, the other half i'm afraid would prolly wanna "gift" you an autographed copy from their personal collection of white power literature.... :confused:
 
robert l. bentham said:
actually.... half the people here would discuss mein kampf with you on its merits, and it would be most stimulating, the other half i'm afraid would prolly wanna "gift" you an autographed copy from their personal collection of white power literature.... :confused:
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whenever I get "white power literature", I mean republican mail (always asking for money, of course) I throw it in the paper recycling bag to be picked up on Tuesday morning

:D
 
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