Pirates in Texas...

is it me, or are there a bunch of really odd people in Texas ???

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how do the civilized people put p with this?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
What? They've got Mooslims on the lake too?
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Just indigenous peoples connecting with their lost traditions of human sacrifice.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
decriminalize the drugs and the people that use them. Stopped the liquor cartels machine gunning everyone in the streets of Chicago.
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On November 2, 2010, California voters will decide whether or not to legalize marijuana.

If passed, Proposition 19 would control marijuana like alcohol, allowing adults 21 years of age and over to possess up to an ounce of pot for personal consumption and grow marijuana at a private residence in a space of up to 25 square feet. The initiative would also allow local governments to tax and regulate the commercial cultivation, transport, and sale of marijuana.
 
metalman said:
On November 2, 2010, California voters will decide whether or not to legalize marijuana.
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Well, it's a start. Of course, that doesn't fully address the Mexican problem since that's not Mexico's major drug profit center. Other drugs will still make good illicit money. It should cut down flows from the north - that will be bad for the BC economy as the black market pot exports are a large part of our economy. However, it should mean less running through Washington and Oregon as local small scale California production can start to meet local demand. It also curtails the "gateway" status of pot. If you don't have to go to an illegal pusher to get the stuff then you are less likely to get up-sold onto other higher margin or more addicting drugs.
 
metalman said:
If passed, Proposition 19 would control marijuana like alcohol
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This would at least address some of the ridiculous hypocrisy of gaoling people for using one, whilst simultaneously encouraging consumption of the other.

I'll be delighted if it passes.
 
metalman said:
FluffyMcDeath said:
decriminalize the drugs and the people that use them. Stopped the liquor cartels machine gunning everyone in the streets of Chicago.
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On November 2, 2010, California voters will decide whether or not to legalize marijuana.

If passed, Proposition 19 would control marijuana like alcohol, allowing adults 21 years of age and over to possess up to an ounce of pot for personal consumption and grow marijuana at a private residence in a space of up to 25 square feet. The initiative would also allow local governments to tax and regulate the commercial cultivation, transport, and sale of marijuana.
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That's... Not a bad idea at all!

Thanks for sharing :)

Out of curiosity, if it passes in California, would it make it more or less likely to pass in other states?
 
the_leander said:
Out of curiosity, if it passes in California, would it make it more or less likely to pass in other states?
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If it passes it California is likely other states would decriminalize also.

WSJ online Poll
 
 
the_leander said:
Out of curiosity, if it passes in California, would it make it more or less likely to pass in other states?
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yes.

as soon as other states see that this policy is generating income they will slowly start trying to join the crowd.

a friend of my mother's has a husband recovering from cancer has trouble eating. If he could get marijuana to help his appetite he would be able to put on weight and get stronger.

that would be nice.
 
cecilia said:
a friend of my mother's has a husband recovering from cancer has trouble eating. If he could get marijuana to help his appetite he would be able to put on weight and get stronger.

that would be nice.
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Fourteen states and DC have already enacted laws that legalize medical marijuana, only 2 do not require residency though.
 
cecilia said:
as soon as other states see that this policy is generating income they will slowly start trying to join the crowd.
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In these economic times that may be true - but not necessarily. States that fund their cops through seizures (i.e. who fund their police by seizing assets of criminals) may feel that they should make more things illegal, not less.

Regardless, the Federal Government has more or less stated that if the states won't prosecute then they will. There's a whole other can of worms.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
cecilia said:
as soon as other states see that this policy is generating income they will slowly start trying to join the crowd.
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In these economic times that may be true - but not necessarily. States that fund their cops through seizures (i.e. who fund their police by seizing assets of criminals) may feel that they should make more things illegal, not less.
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There is a big vested interest in obtaining seizure funds, and the continuous requests for more law enforcement hiring to combat the drug war. The Border Patrol is at times more interested in finding drugs than illegals, especially now that illegals are no longer being deported.
 
Prop 19: Should Californians legalize marijuana?

California voters should ask themselves these questions when deciding Prop 19.

Is the prohibition in place for the last 70 or so years succeeding?

Are the benefits of the prohibition of marijuana worth the erosion of civil liberties? (no-knock raids, property seizures, cash transaction recording)

Does the prohibition of marijuana make sense in the context of the legal status of alcoholic beverages, which have the same social costs as associated with marijuana?

Is is possible to ban a weed that will grow almost everywhere?

Which does society the greater harm, organized crime networks or a pot smoker?
 
metalman said:
cecilia said:
a friend of my mother's has a husband recovering from cancer has trouble eating. If he could get marijuana to help his appetite he would be able to put on weight and get stronger.

that would be nice.
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Fourteen states and DC have already enacted laws that legalize medical marijuana, only 2 do not require residency though.
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not being a drug user I have no idea which states those are.

the guy with cancer lives in NY and his exhausted wife drives to PA for the cancer treatments.

the only state that needs to get this legislation for THIS guy is NY because this is where he eats. or needs to eat.
 
metalman said:
Which does society the greater harm, organized crime networks or a pot smoker?
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Neither, clearly the most harm is done by 12 years downloading music without paying :lol:
 
cecilia said:
not being a drug user I have no idea which states those are.

the guy with cancer lives in NY and his exhausted wife drives to PA for the cancer treatments.

the only state that needs to get this legislation for THIS guy is NY because this is where he eats. or needs to eat.
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Not a pot smoker either and never have been, but I have a hard time understanding the harm from seriously ill people smoking weed.
 
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