Police find decapitated body of Mexico newspaper editor

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The editor of a Mexican newspaper was found dead, her body decapitated and with a note next to it, officials said.

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Looks like those gangs are putting their "School of the Americas" training to good use.
 
I would seriously recommend NOT watching that video.
 
Glaucus said:
I would seriously recommend NOT watching that video.
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the gruesome part is at 3:19

They said they were getting paid $300 pesos per week

Was it a Stihl or a Husqvarna?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Looks like those gangs are putting their "School of the Americas" training to good use.
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They are, but this type of violence has probably more to do with their Aztec heritage. Extreme violence has always been part of their culture and the Spanish never did manage to breed that out of them. It's like the Afghans which treated women worse than animals since the ancient years. Islam and modern society hasn't changed them either.
 
Glaucus said:
TIt's like the Afghans which treated women worse than animals since the ancient years. Islam and modern society hasn't changed them either.
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Women were doing much better under the old Soviet friendly government.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Women were doing much better under the old Soviet friendly government.
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Ya, but only when the Soviets ran the show. As soon as they were gone, they resorted back to more traditional ways. Likewise when NATO went into Afghanistan restrictions on women were relaxed, but I'd be willing to bet you lots of money that if NATO were to pull out tomorrow things would revert quickly.
 
Glaucus said:
Ya, but only when the Soviets ran the show. As soon as they were gone, they resorted back to more traditional ways.
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You mean when the Pakistan (and US) backedTaliban took over?

Womens position in society improved under King Amanullah (1919-1929). Things regressed under King Habibullah but he lasted less than a year before Britain helped put Nadir Shah on the throne. Nadir Shah (1929-1933) went along with the Mullahs for the most part as far as women were concerned. The next King, Zahir Shah, didn't really run much. Instead the PM, Hashim Khan ran the show improving education and infrastructure.
Daoud Khan was brought in to modernize the country in the 1950s (women were permitted to go without a veil in 1959).
The Afghans had asked the Americans to participate in the modernization efforts but the US had no interest and so they leaned mostly on the Soviets.
In 1973 Daoud Khan overthrew the monarchy.
From the 50s to the 80s women were allowed education, employment and could walk around in public in western dress.

Of course, the clerics and other Muslim extremists still had influence in the countryside - so when it came to fighting a proxy war with the Soviets, the US backed the religious nutjobs and set women back decades.

The people of Afghanistan are capable of change but it takes a few generations to make positive change and it takes stability and security. As a playground of super (and lesser) powers those things are luxuries in Afghanistan.
 
Then I think we agree on Afghanistan. The thing is, people often get conservative when facing tough times. So in times of war, they tend to resort to old school ways of thinking. We've seen a regression in the US after 9/11 and we see it elsewhere as well. For a place like Afghanistan to modernize it would obviously need peace and stability first. But anyway, this isn't a thread about Afghanistan. My point was that extreme violence has deep roots in Mexico that predates the CIA. Human sacrifice was a fact of life with the Aztecs. And the drug wars don't explain all the violence going on in Mexico today, in particular the specific targeting of women in Juarez.
 
 
Ya, this is the problem in Mexico right now, the drug cartels have fractured and the gangsters are doing things other then drug trafficking to raise funds. I still think the best weapon against the cartels is to soften up the drug laws in OTHER nations, particularly the US, but I'm not sure if that alone will solve Mexico's problems. They really need a proper police/legal system.
 
Investigations also resulted in the arrest of a state police officer, who is accused of having served as a lookout while the attackers set the casino ablaze. Nuevo Leon officials said that further arrests of police personnel were likely as the investigation continues.

He was a specialist at manual strangulation. He doesn’t even remember how many people he killed. “When I was in my fourth semester at the university, some acquaintances arranged for me to enter the police academy,” he says, explaining how he went from a ‘pasacarros’ to a professional cartel hit-man. Of those 200 police graduates, 50 are already being paid by the narcos; in other words, 150 will be distributed in different places throughout the state. But the other fifty will also be spread about the state: 25 will stay in Juárez, 5 in Chihuahua, 5 in Parral, 5 in Ojinaga, and so on and so forth. "One learns the ways in which the cartel or the cartels send messages by the way they leave a body. The orders are: ‘Dump it face up.’ This is a message. ‘Dump it face down.’ Another message. ‘Cut off a finger and stick it in the mouth.’ A message. ‘Cut off a finger and put it in the anus.’ Message. “Gauge the eyes out, cut the tongue off’

Spanish audio with German subtitles

complete interview
“The sicario: A Juárez hit man speaks” by Charles Bowden (Harpers)
 
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