Poor people in USA are starving can't afford healthy food.

[redrumloa]

http://penn-dutch.com/circular/index.jsp?pageID=43026#thumbnails

Whole chickens - $0.69/lb
Black Forrest Ham - $1.99lb
Nectarines/Apples - $0.99/lb
Avocados - $0.69/each
Bananas - $0.39/lb
Squash - $0.69/lb
Baby red potatoes - $1.49/ 3lb bad
Oranges - $1.99/ 4lb bag

Maybe, just maybe, if they used their income and/or food stamps for healthy food instead of McDonalds, Pizza or complete crap at the grocery store, just maybe they wouldn't be so fat. If they must have sweets, Bananas at $0.39/lb or Apples at $0.99/lb are far cheaper than ice cream, Ding Dongs, Ho Ho's, Moon Pies etc.

 

[the_leander]

Are people actually still taught to cook proper meals from scratch these days?

I know in the UK this used to be covered under home economics classes which specifically taught it. Sadly Home Ec these days is almost unheard of, in fact it was all but phased out whilst I was still in secondary school fairly early on.

 

[redrumloa]

Are people actually still taught to cook proper meals from scratch these days?

I know in the UK this used to be covered under home economics classes which specifically taught it. Sadly Home Ec these days is almost unheard of, in fact it was all but phased out whilst I was still in secondary school fairly early on.

It should be passed down from family to family and/or offered in schools. That said, I was never formally taught to cook and I cook all the time. Personally, I think it is all part of our culture of laziness and lack of responsibility that is encouraged and coddled by the liberal media and the progressive democrats. Shortly after I post this faethor and cecilia will rush in and ask why I hate obese poor people.

Truth is, today's unhealthy food is toxic. There is nearly no nutritional value and it does not trigger a "I'm full" sensation. Progressive Democrats and bleeding heart liberals insist we must be taxed more to give even more public assistance to these obese "poor" people, even though it is proven doing so only makes them fatter. This is the world we live in where you can buy fast food with food stamps, at the same time healthy naturals foods are demonized and taxed or completed removed from the marketplace through terrorist-like tactics.

People need to learn to think for themselves and not just be told what their opinions are by TV.

 

[Glaucus]

Eating out every day has more to do with lack of time to cook than anything else. Poor people may need to work more than one job to make ends meet. Eating at McD's may be not because they're tired or stupid, but just exhausted and don't have time to cook. Also, cooking a chicken or steaks requires cooking equipment that they might not have access to.

I do agree with you that poor people tend to live unhealthy life styles (eat bad food, smoke, drink more then others, etc) and part of the problem is that it's part of their culture.

 

[faethor]

@Red,
Glaucus is right on here it's people and society. I see the same sort of items in your post. While you start by blaming the person you go on to blame bad things in society. - failure to educate in good nutrition, failure to make non-toxic food, failure to limit food stamps to only healthy food, and the failure for people not be swayed by bad things on TV. -- What you don't get is Progressive's aren't against healthy food.

Progressives are pro-improving society's influcing factors, which yourself complained about. This in turn also helps promote postive nutrional information and market for us all. Society educates through schools and ads. Doing more and better education helps to create a more well informed citizen which in turn enables them to make better choices. Encouraging and rewarding businesses for making healthy food can be done in a number of ways. Reducing bad ads on TV (example removing cigarette ads had a huge positive effect) and encouraging more healthy ads helps make TV a more positive force that some people may be expecting or using.

If 'We the People' help each other out by making society by what we want it to be we all win. Producing milk without a license or permit (as you posted) would be good if people could keep their equipment clean and free of disease. Clear inroads to healthier food has been made by improved inspections, which these fees cover the cost of doing. The problem with dirty food is bad things happen as people are made sick and/or die. Certainly a company will go out of business if they kill the consumer. But really would you prefer that your kids are killed then the bad company goes under? Or is it better to ensure the company is providing your kids clean food to begin with? Those really are the choices.

Now, I fully agree the programs aren't prefect. I see more work at improving the quality of programs to make things better rather than the Michelle Bachmann idea of gutting the programs and hope no one dies before the company goes out of business.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

I know in the UK this used to be covered under home economics classes which specifically taught it. Sadly Home Ec these days is almost unheard of, in fact it was all but phased out whilst I was still in secondary school fairly early on.

When my gran died I found one of her old Home Ec work books. They had a section on how to find potable water. I don't remember doing that in Home Ec.

 

[Robert]

Are people actually still taught to cook proper meals from scratch these days?

I know in the UK this used to be covered under home economics classes which specifically taught it. Sadly Home Ec these days is almost unheard of, in fact it was all but phased out whilst I was still in secondary school fairly early on.

I had two years of home economics at school and learned the square root of hee-haw from it.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Progressives are pro-improving society's influcing factors,...

The problem with "progressives" is the same as the problem with "democrats" and "republicans" and other labels. The problem is that they ARE labels, and some have their own baggage and some have baggage hung on them by propagandists who want to split people.

What the Tea Party has is a platform of smaller government, more religion, less social security and less medicare and so they tend to even be against the interests of their own supporters (who seem to be able to compartmentalize these issues in order to vote millionaires into government). Supporters sign on usually for a small piece of the platform or simply don't know what the platform is. Democrat and Republican parties differ on social things like abortion or religious schools but for the most part they agree on business, finance and wars - so supporters work to get millionaires voted into office while really only supporting very small sections of the platforms - sections that, it usually turns out, never get implemented.

Once you get away from the labeling and get down to the issues you often find that there is more common ground than you would expect - but you have to maintain your focus and be as single issue as possible and the occupy movement is single issue (despite the propagandists trying to hang issues onto the movement to undercut support) and the issue has wide appeal - the guys that crashed the economy need to pay, and the money that went into politics that lead to the sad condition that resulted in the regulators failing to get the crooks out of the system must be rectified. It's simple and it's common sense - and the majority of the people on all sides of the political spectrum understand that, no matter what else you may believe in, letting cheaters get away with their crimes (especially when the consequences are so dire) is unacceptable and unworkable.

 

[Robert]

Democrat and Republican parties differ on social things like abortion or religious schools but for the most part they agree on business, finance and wars - so supporters work to get millionaires voted into office while really only supporting very small sections of the platforms - sections that, it usually turns out, never get implemented.

If only more people woke up to this, some things might actually change. Alas, all the signs point to no.

 

[Glaucus]

What Robert said!

 

[cecilia]

My family survived the Depression by being frugal and only buying HEALTHY food. And I heard plenty of stories about the unemployed selling apples on street corners.
Apples!
that is real, good, healthy food.
Just because things are tough doesn't mean you become stupid. On the contrary, when things are rough THAT is when you HAVE to be really smart.

and who is selling shit processed crap?
oh, right!
corporations who are only interested in profit.

I think I know who the Evil people are.

What has to happen is that the poor have to get smart and stop giving whatever meager money they have to the {bleep} rich

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Good news - poor people are gaining access to healthy food!
At the end of the Soviet Union there were no potatoes in the stores because people had already stolen them out of the fields. Things are falling apart when your carrots aren't safe.

 

[redrumloa]

Good news - poor people are gaining access to healthy food!
At the end of the Soviet Union there were no potatoes in the stores because people had already stolen them out of the fields. Things are falling apart when your carrots aren't safe.

The theft isn't likely from starvation, rather the culture of entitlement pop culture and the left have crafted.

We have a person in our neighborhood who walks up into people's yards and picks fruit off their trees without asking all the time. He doesn't do it under the cloak of night, he does it during the day.

 

[faethor]

The theft isn't likely from starvation, rather the culture of entitlement pop culture and the left have crafted.

Yeah cuz after all there was no theft w/o Lady Gaga.... Next Theory!

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The theft isn't likely from starvation, rather the culture of entitlement pop culture and the left have crafted.

Yes, the old left wing motto "greed is good"!

 

[redrumloa]

Yes, the old left wing motto "greed is good"!

Nope, they left wing motto to the poor and middle class is "bend over".

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Nope, they left wing motto to the poor and middle class is "bend over".

So, the left wing are the guys who are hording all the money and refusing to share the wealth? OK. Is war also peace now?

 

[Dammy]

The problem with "progressives" is the same as the problem with "democrats" and "republicans" and other labels. The problem is that they ARE labels, and some have their own baggage and some have baggage hung on them by propagandists who want to split people.

That's a staple of the Progressives speak, divide into camps and conquer.

What the Tea Party has is a platform of smaller government, more religion, less social security and less medicare and so they tend to even be against the interests of their own supporters (who seem to be able to compartmentalize these issues in order to vote millionaires into government).

URL validating your claims from any major Tea Party web site? Of course there isn't, Tea Party is not about religion nor social issues, it's about being boiled alive in taxation and government growth. I'm all ears on how you would, if you were an American, would solve the US budget deficit of $1.3+T and pay off the US national debt of $15T (by December of this year). Executing everyone and their families who make over $200K and confiscating their assets won't raise enough money to do it either. Wealth redistribution is not going to create more wealth.

 

[Dammy]

So, the left wing are the guys who are hording all the money and refusing to share the wealth? OK. Is war also peace now?

80% of those Americans listed on Forbes wealthiest are Progressives. Explain that one?

 

[faethor]

Of course there isn't, Tea Party is not about religion nor social issues, it's about being boiled alive in taxation and government growth

You can't seperate taxation from society. For it's upon society that taxation applies. The fairness of taxation is based upon one's understanding of fairness within a society.

Michelle Bachmann, from MN, filed and Chairs the Tea Party Cacucus. She has a religious and social agenda. So if you want the claim the Tea Party doesn't have such an agenda, that's fine. Though the Tea Party candidates clearly do have such an agenda. As we vote for a person not a party we're going to get the 'Tea Party President' Bachmann's social agenda too.