RFK Jr is a fraud?

[redrumloa]

Shame. I certainly didn't like a lot of his positions he tried to hide, but at least his recent public facing views were pretty good. It seems maybe he's just another fraud.

RFK JR. LOOKING TO DEAL? Third-Party Candidate Will Trade Endorsement for Cabinet Post: Report​

According to a report from The New York Post, third-party presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants to trade an endorsement for a position in the next administration.

The far-shot indie reportedly sought a conversation with Kamala Harris — but did not get one. According to sources within RFK’s orbit, he would make the same deal with Donald Trump.

From The New York Post:
The 70-year-old White House hopeful argued that it would be a “strategic mistake” for the Harris campaign to not consider his proposal.

“I think they ought to be looking at every opportunity,” he said. “I think it is going to be a very close race.”

A spokesperson for the Kennedy campaign suggested that the independent candidate is open to making the same proposal to former President Donald Trump.

“Mr. Kennedy is willing to meet with leaders of both parties to discuss the possibility of a unity government,” the campaign official told The Post.

Trump, 78, reportedly met with Kennedy in Milwaukee last month, on the first day of the Republican National Convention, in an effort to gain his endorsement.

The Harris campaign did not respond to The Post’s request for comment.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823923994329760080

 

[Robert]

It seems maybe he's just another fraud.

Serial liar, although I can see why he may have been lulled into thinking that's a winning strategy.

 

[redrumloa]

He denied the Kamala reports and now we get this.

RFK Jr.’s Running Mate Admits Campaign Is Considering Joining Forces with Donald Trump​

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s running mate, Nicole Shanahan, says their campaign is considering joining forces with Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump.

In an interview with Tom Bilyeu on his show, Impact Theory, Shanahan revealed that she trusts “the future” of the United States under the leadership of people such as Trump and his vice presidential pick, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH).

When questioned about rumors that Kennedy was in talks with either Trump or Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign about a “potential endorsement” in exchange for a position in their cabinets, Shanahan said they were “definitely not in talks with Harris” and “definitely never have brought up this idea of an endorsement” with Harris’s campaign.

“There’s two options that we’re looking at, and one is staying in, forming that new party, but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris and Walz presidency because we draw votes from Trump — or we draw, somehow, more votes from Trump,” Shanahan revealed. “Or we walk away right now and join forces with Donald Trump, and we walk away from that, and we explain to our base why we’re making this decision.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1825934465819922720

That's pretty much from the horses mouth. The earlier report was an anonymous source. He has no chance to win, so staying in would only act as spoiler for one side or the other, probably harming Trump. Typical Dems are incapable of independent thought, they "vote blue no matter who". That's their own saying, not mine.

 

[Pyromania]

I’m shocked anyone is voting Harris. American Citizens are suffering with sky high prices while the US funds wars all over the world. Why would she even get 1% of the vote in November?

 

[Robert]

I’m shocked anyone is voting Harris. American Citizens are suffering with sky high prices while the US funds wars all over the world. Why would she even get 1% of the vote in November?

The fact that she's the only candidate left who isn't a barely coherent, ranty old, conspiracy-theory-peddling mental case will probably get her a vote or two. I would say I'm shocked anyone would be shocked by that but I'm not. Not remotely.

 

[Pyromania]

I believed the Biden/Harris sales pitch in 2020 but I’m not fooled this time. They’ve proven over the last 3 or so years that they don’t know what they are doing and just lie about tons of things, not 100% lying but way too much when they claim that’s all Trump does.

 

[redrumloa]

RFK Endorses Trump For President​

Democrat-turned-independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. endorsed Republican nominee Donald Trump on Friday, a major development that could shift momentum in the increasingly tight fight for the White House.

During a speech in Phoenix, Kennedy said he was “suspending” his campaign and seeking to remove his name from the ballot in battleground states while keeping his name on the ballot in “blue” and “red” states.

“My name will remain on the ballot in most states. If you live in a blue state, you can vote for me without harming our helping President Trump or Vice President Harris,” he said. “In Red states, the same will apply. … But in about 10 battleground states, where my presence would be a spoiler, I’m going to remove my name, and I’ve already started that process and urge voters not to vote for me.”

“Now, [I am throwing] my support to President Trump.”

 

[Pyromania]

This is a great endorsement for Trump!

 

[Robert]

RFK Endorses Trump For President​

Democrat-turned-independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. endorsed Republican nominee Donald Trump on Friday, a major development that could shift momentum in the increasingly tight fight for the White House.

During a speech in Phoenix, Kennedy said he was “suspending” his campaign and seeking to remove his name from the ballot in battleground states while keeping his name on the ballot in “blue” and “red” states.

“My name will remain on the ballot in most states. If you live in a blue state, you can vote for me without harming our helping President Trump or Vice President Harris,” he said. “In Red states, the same will apply. … But in about 10 battleground states, where my presence would be a spoiler, I’m going to remove my name, and I’ve already started that process and urge voters not to vote for me.”

“Now, [I am throwing] my support to President Trump.”

Bygones be bygones,etc.

 

[Robert]

Just as genuine in the other direction:

Bygones be bygones,etc.

I suppose as far as integrity goes, they make a pretty evenly matched couple.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Did you watch RFK Jr's "Address to the Nation"? Sounds like they've decided to agree to disagree on a lot of issues but they still see a party dressed in Harris clothing is the worse option. As much as they dislike each other they fear the alternative more.

 

[Robert]

Sounds like they've decided to agree to disagree on a lot of issues but they still see a party dressed in Harris clothing is the worse option. As much as they dislike each other they fear the alternative more.

That's just a noble-sounding way of justifying straight up lies. I suppose he has to rationalise such blatant nonsense to voters somehow.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

That's just a noble-sounding way of justifying straight up lies. I suppose he has to rationalise such blatant nonsense to voters somehow.

I'm having trouble parsing your sentences and mapping them back to the subject. I figure circumstances have changed perhaps so a bit of back pedaling and hatchet burying may be seen as the best option. Not a lot of people (except deplorable ones) seemed to notice when everyone who was anyone went form saying old Joe was sharp as a tack to saying he's lost his marbles overnight.

 

[redrumloa]

I'm having trouble parsing your sentences and mapping them back to the subject. I figure circumstances have changed perhaps so a bit of back pedaling and hatchet burying may be seen as the best option. Not a lot of people (except deplorable ones) seemed to notice when everyone who was anyone went form saying old Joe was sharp as a tack to saying he's lost his marbles overnight.

I can only chalk Robert's take to TDS, sorry Robert. Campaign rhetoric is always turned to 11 and silly. The banter between Trump and RFK Jr have been largely inconsequential. Robert seems to have a singular focus on Trump losing. Both Brandon and Kamala have been repeating not just known lies, but also outright hoaxes. We're talking not just inconsequential things, but very serious defamation. We're talking subjects so extreme and obvious lies that even fringe left organizations such as Snopes admit are false. Robert's perfectly fine with that since orangemanbad or something.

Robert, if there's any flicker of caring about truth in you, watch this interview with RFK Jr. He's not the only Dem to break ranks to support Trump and more are coming. Trump and RFK Jr don't see eye to eye on many things still, both openly admit. There are some subjects they do share common ground on and they are extremely important.

 

[Robert]

I'm having trouble parsing your sentences and mapping them back to the subject.

The subject of the thread was posed by someone suggesting RFK jr is a fraud. I tend to agree with that position so have highlighted some, let's be kind and call them "changes of position". You clearly don't think he's a fraud and the OP appears to have now flipped 180 too but I maintain my position that he spews nonsense, either through lies or idiocy. He's not quite as prolific as Trump but still pretty bad.

everyone who was anyone went form saying old Joe was sharp as a tack to saying he's lost his marbles overnight.

That's a bit of a strawman. I was saying on here Biden was too old long before he stood down and whoever was claiming he was sharp as a tack, it certainly passed me by.

 

[Robert]

Robert, if there's any flicker of caring about truth in you, watch this interview... (then posts a video of the guy he thought was a fraud)

Bravo, sir.

 

[redrumloa]

Bravo, sir.

I posed a QUESTION to begin this thread. My question got answered as he did not endorse Kamala and strongly denies asking for a cabinet position. When someone adds a question mark (?) to a statement, it means they aren't sure the answer.

I hope this helps.

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You didn't watch the video, as suspected. You don't care about the truth.

 

[Robert]

I posed a QUESTION to begin this thread.

Sure you did. You also said this:

It seems maybe he's just another fraud.

That's a suggestion that he's a fraud, which was all I claimed but I'll stick my neck out a tiny bit further and say you thought he was a fraud. Trying to deny that from the above quote?

You don't care about the truth.

When I posted a clip demonstrating the truth after you spread more lies on, ironically, your hilariously titled thread about propaganda, your reason for not watching it was:

I did not watch every single second like the Zapruder Film. If you put something obviously fake in, the whole clip is crap.

Now you post a clip with "something obviously fake in," namely an interview with a demonstrable liar, and then claim if I don't watch it it's because I don't care about truth. Wonderful stuff.

 

[Robert]

Fraud or not, this is even nuttier than the dubious tell-it-to-Roseanne story around the Central Park dumping of the bear carcass.

Bobby—who likes to study animal skulls and skeletons—ran down to the beach with a chain saw, cut off the whale’s head, and then bungee-corded it to the roof of the family minivan for the five-hour haul back to Mount Kisco, New York. “Every time we accelerated on the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of the car, and it was the rankest thing on the planet,” Kick recalls. “We all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth holes cut out, and people on the highway were giving us the finger, but that was just normal day-to-day stuff for us.”

 

[redrumloa]

Fraud or not, this is even nuttier than the dubious tell-it-to-Roseanne story around the Central Park dumping of the bear carcass.

I quickly scanned Vanity Fair that article and found almost every reference is another Vanity Fair article, minus one. Pretty poor journalism, if it's that and not just a hit piece. I decided to just look up one part to verify and found the full bear story in context, unedited.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820132549798347109

I have to assume the story is true, because the Liberal Media ran with it as proof of a negative. If true and in full context, not a really big deal. A lot of states have laws about roadkill. Dumping the carcass wasn't the smartest move but probably not even illegal.

If they are spinning that story into such a negative, I'm sure the rest are too.

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BTW, why does Roseann look like she's in front of a greenscreen?