Rick Scott cutting more government waste!

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Laid off government workers sob now nthat the gravy train has come to an end. Of course our liberal newspaper writers are again going bonkers.

About 1,300 workers have lost their jobs under the new state budget approved by the Legislature and signed into law by Gov. Rick Scott.

I have a hard time crying for these state workers. If you have ever been to the Florida DMV, you will know exactly what I mean. I guess their days of standing around all day talking, eating donuts and drinking coffee while one or many two of their coworkers actually help the public are over.
 
Pay for donuts in the office or pay for them to stay home and eat donuts either way you pay.

Not sure why you believe it to be good that Scott is helping ensure Florida is #1 in the nation for % of unemployed but hey gotta be #1 in something.
 
faethor said:
Pay for donuts in the office or pay for them to stay home and eat donuts either way you pay.

Not sure why you believe it to be good that Scott is helping ensure Florida is #1 in the nation for % of unemployed but hey gotta be #1 in something.
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Unemployment is something Scott inherited. Get back to me when he is up for election again and we will see what the trend is.

Unemployement pay is less than their salary and does not last forever. These former state workers will have to find work in the private sector and adjust to actually having to do work, not just getting paid for no productivity at all.
 
That's rich, Red. Weren't you recently attached to the government teat?

As for government waste, Rick Scott is government waste. I'm sure he's going to do very well for himself with all his side deals and political favours but don't expect an increase to the number of unemployed people in the state to be good for the housing market, the mortgage holders of those future defaulters and all the people who would have supplied those workers with services. One strange thing that governments always seem to overlook is that almost everything they spend into the economy comes back as taxes. Depending on the tax rate, the cost to the government of a state employee is immediately discounted by the amount of money the state taxes right back. Then the state gets sales tax on everything the state employees buy, they get tax on every private employee that renders them a service... a state employee is about the cheapest employee you can have if you are the state.

Instead, when you outsource the things state employees do a far smaller percentage of the money stays in the state because private companies, while they tend to charge the same or more than state companies, tend to divert most of that money to top out of state employees and off-shore tax havens. But that's the point of the exercise, especially if you want to make friends with the sort of people who own those companies and use those havens.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
That's rich, Red. Weren't you recently attached to the government teat?
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No, I have never worked for the government in any capacity. I work for a very large private commercial real estate company. What you are probably thinking of is my mention of whom the tenants are in the buildings under my watch. Those tenants are from the Federal level, not state level. I love my tenants and don't think they can do any wrong;)
 
redrumloa said:
Unemployment is something Scott inherited. Get back to me when he is up for election again and we will see what the trend is.
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Seems to me quite a bit of what he's doing ensures an increase in unemployment headcount. Perhaps the biggest contributor to lowering unemployment is the continued exodus from Florida.

Unemployement pay is less than their salary and does not last forever. These former state workers will have to find work in the private sector and adjust to actually having to do work, not just getting paid for no productivity at all.
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 Too bad the private sector ain't hiring either.
 
redrumloa said:
What you are probably thinking of is my mention of whom the tenants are in the buildings under my watch. Those tenants are from the Federal level, not state level.
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Still a government teat - you're just sucking on it through someone else's straw.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Still a government teat - you're just sucking on it through someone else's straw.
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Wrong, my company is not hired by the gov. We are hired by the 3rd party(s) who own the property(s). The gov in no way pays anything to my company. If the fed gov tenant moved out, we would still be here managing the property(s).
 
redrumloa said:
Unemployment is something Scott inherited. Get back to me when he is up for election again and we will see what the trend is.
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Red somehow I suspect you don't give the same benefit to Obama. Unemployment was at it's highest the month Obama was sworn in. Yet I've never heard you excuse Unemployment for something Obama inherited, cuz he did afterall.
 
faethor said:
Red somehow I suspect you don't give the same benefit to Obama. Unemployment was at it's highest the month Obama was sworn in. Yet I've never heard you excuse Unemployment for something Obama inherited, cuz he did afterall.
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You are correct, I don't give him enough credit for being a master propagandist.
 
redrumloa said:
You are correct, I don't give him enough credit for being a master propagandist.
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Jan 2009 - over 700K jobs lost and Obama sworn in
June 2011 - 18K jobs created

Clearly not enough jobs being created but stopping 1/2 million / month losses is fairly good is it not?
 
faethor said:
Jan 2009 - over 700K jobs lost and Obama sworn in
June 2011 - 18K jobs created

Clearly not enough jobs being created but stopping 1/2 million / month losses is fairly good is it not?
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As of just about every other month, that 18k jobs "created" will be revised down.

June Jobs Report: the Ugly, the Ugly and the Ugly
The Ugly #2. The unemployment rate ticked up to 9.2 percent. Payroll jobs figures are calculated from the establishment survey (calling up companies and asking them how many they employ). The unemployment rate is derived from the BLS's household survey (calling up people and asking them if they've been working). Sometimes the two surveys tell divergent stories. Not this month. The unemployment rose to 9.2 percent. The number would have been worse had the labor force not declined in June by about 250,000 people.
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This 9.2% is of course still a joke. The real unemployement rate is closer to 20%. If you factor in people who lost their jobs and are under employed in part time McJobs the numbers are staggering. Reality is not as rosey as Obama makes it out to be. Obama promised Porkulous would fix everything and we would be under % unemployement. Instead Porkulous just made a lot of his friends really rich.
 
redrumloa said:
This 9.2% is of course still a joke. The real unemployement rate is closer to 20%. If you factor in people who lost their jobs and are under employed in part time McJobs the numbers are staggering. Reality is not as rosey as Obama makes it out to be. Obama promised Porkulous would fix everything and we would be under % unemployement. Instead Porkulous just made a lot of his friends really rich.
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Of course it is. But, the counting problem isn't special to Obama. We had this same ratio of uncounted to counted unemployment in our nation before Obama. The US doesn't count unemployment the same way as other nations. And we even changed how we count. I believe the formula we use now was last changed under Reagan.

McJobs? Republicans hate the highly paid Unions. And they sought cheaply manufactured goods so fire them all and move it off-shore. The result was the low paying Wal-Mart jobs were what was left after the Republicans destruction of the middle class. They shouldn't bitch when they were a primary part of creating what we have today. It's amazing that people expect Obama to fix in 2 years what took decades to destroy.

As for Porkulous? Yup bank bail out passed by Bush. So neither party is a winner.

If you're giving a mulligan for inheriting unemployment then I suggest you apply that mulligan fairly to both parties.
 
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