Should Congress make a 'shared sacrifice' by cutting its pay, benefits?

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Should members of Congress cut their salaries or raise the age at which they can draw a congressional pension when many Americans are making personal sacrifices during the country's prolonged economic crisis?

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I think the number one way to fix the problems in America today would be to remove the amazing benefits package from US Congressmen, making them deal with the same problems with health care, retirement, and everything else that the average American has to deal with on a daily basis.

It's difficult to imagine the troubles faced by the people from high up in the ivory tower. If a Congressman is out of touch with the realities of being a normal person, the best way to fix the problem is to put him back in touch with reality.
 
Similarly, make Big sis go to an airport with no entourage (anonymously) and have her get treated like the rest of us and the TSA would be either fixed or demolished almost immediately.

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One of the big problems is the influence of big money. If Congress loses benefits and salary they'll simply rely even more on the funding from World Wide Corporations to fill their own pockets. I think this link must be broken first prior to trimming Congressional salary or benefits. The first step would be to outlaw spending on politics. Instead the US gov should fund all candidates in stages at the same amount.
 
Solid point. Get rid of the ways to become corrupt, fix things. I like it.
 
One of the big problems is the influence of big money. If Congress loses benefits and salary they'll simply rely even more on the funding from World Wide Corporations to fill their own pockets. I think this link must be broken first prior to trimming Congressional salary or benefits. The first step would be to outlaw spending on politics. Instead the US gov should fund all candidates in stages at the same amount.

No no no and no. If you take the benefits away from Congress, vast majority wouldn't even notice because they are already that rich. Look at Pelosi, she and her husband make $30M last year alone? Vast majority of Congress critters are not poor and do not need anything. The idea of Government controlling the complete financial strings of campaigning is tyranny in the making. Government can then deny the candidates it doesn't like (just won't recognize them as serious candidates) and snuff out the free society's flame of representation. Global Elites are already controlling the US government, do you want the Global Elites complete control of who can run and who can't run if money (free speech) is limited to only who they want to give it to?

If anything, I say do completely away with any financial assistance for campaigns from government. I do not see the reason why a single tax dollar should go to pay a candidate's campaign. I trust the people before I trust the government. They may get it wrong, but they will correct their mistakes in the following election.
 
Similarly, make Big sis go to an airport with no entourage (anonymously) and have her get treated like the rest of us and the TSA would be either fixed or demolished almost immediately.

That reminds me - about 12 years ago in BC the leader of the Provincial Government was a man named Glen Clark. He was being pretty badly beaten up by "scandals" which never really panned out after the fact but there was a lot of emotion being whipped up (at least on TV) in the province - and yet, I went to the airport to pick up a friend and there, standing in the airport also obviously meeting someone getting off a plane, there was Glen Clark - and I looked around and I couldn't figure out where his security was. I was somewhat surprised because the public was supposed to be hating him at that time.

Subsequent to Glen we got Gordon Campbell and that guy couldn't go anywhere without guards - but he was popular. I suspect that I don't really get an accurate view from the local TV.
 
I trust the people before I trust the government.
There is the problem. The people, in theory, ARE the government, but you don't see it that way and that is because the people are kept out of government as much as possible.
You can say that the government should be the sole supplier of campaign cash but you have the problem that you mentioned - that candidates can simply not be recognized and their funding would not happen.

Conversely is the problem that already exists, that the people who are in government happen to come from the same class as the people with all of the money and wealth. This means that if you could only approach friends and family and like minded corporations.

You couldn't run a people's campaign because the "people" don't have the money to run one.

The best you could do is outlaw all campaign finance and all campaigning outside of whistle stops and soap boxes. Further you would have to try to ensure that favours done in power couldn't be collected after the fact. It would be better to have a good permanent pension and outlaw any work for or money from companies permanently after serving in office than to dump pensions and therefore put it into politicians minds that they need to figure out what job they should get when done with office.

Certainly though, to make things more egalitarian, there should be no protection for politicians kids in times of war. Everyone goes to the front line - no deferments or favouritism just because your dad is rich or in Congress.

There should be no health benefit for politicians that isn't available to the general public.

But, mostly, instead of picking politicians brought to you by the slick campaigns paid for by Wall St and Texas Oil, the people need to pick their own representatives and stay off of those the media promotes. To have a people's government then people have to be actively involved in government every day. The people don't have the time and when they do have the time, mindless vapid and shallow entertainment is provided.

If the people turned off their television sets they would not be significantly less well informed, but they would be much less misinformed and they would have more time to work for real change. The amount of time spent watching the super bowl (and all the games that lead up to it) would be sufficient, if aggregated across the entire audience, to do significant damage to the ruling oligarchs.

The average American watches 28 hours a week of TV. That's a part time job. Working 4 hours a day on almost any political agenda would, over a year, either get results or get you on the no-fly list. Either way a better use of time than watching millionaires chuck a ball around.
 
if the Congress is so damn rich they don't NEED any salary,benefits,etc or ANYTHING from taxpayers. period. we can start saving that money.
end all wars and we will have tons of money to rebuild US infrastructure. get troops out of other countries - more savings.
NO lobbyists, NO special interests groups, nothing that will distract the Public Servants from the job at hand.
 
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