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Not sure if anyone has posted this before but a friend forwarded it to me yesterday...Makes for quite an interesting read...
 
adz said:
Not sure if anyone has posted this before but a friend forwarded it to me yesterday...Makes for quite an interesting read...
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I'll give that a read later (so I'm admitting I haven't actually read that link yet, ok) but TEL has been banned in Canada for decades now. However, after TEL we had trouble banning MTBE and MMT due to the free trade agreement with the US. Canada attempted to ban MMT ( Methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl) back in 1996 but was forced to reverse itself because this would have meant damages to the manufacturer. MTBE (Methyl tert-butyl ether) was not banned for other legal wrangling though California tried to but were reversed by the Federal Government around 1999 or so.

Since then these additives in Canadian gasoline have been replaced and I don't think they have been sold here since 2005 or so. It seems it is difficult to get rid of nasty chemicals when lots of money is at stake. Canada is no saint when it comes to nasty chemicals and profit. Check out the cesspool of effluent that is the tar sands - and don't forget we recently lobbied to make sure that asbestos didn't get added to the UN dangerous materials list.
 
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Change some names, some dates and the product and you have the same story hundreds of times over.
 
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What? What! Scientist lying through their teeth and deceiving the public.

It could never happen again. The world is too smart to fall for that kind of stuff today.

That kind of pseudoscience has been relegated to a lock box.
 
That's the point Fluffy. If your science job is dependent upon a particular slant of the results, then you have ceased being a real scientist and have become a self serving businessman. Especially when you are funded by the government. Somehow they never seem to find a final solution to anything. It's always a case of "This needs more study, and more government funding."

What amazes me, is the number of people that willingly swallow pseudoscience as settled fact and jump on the bandwagon, defending it to the bitter end.
 
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Especially when you are funded by the government
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Funding by private industry is also corrupting - and the money can be so very much better.

You will notice that in this case his was a minority position and he benefited from it directly because not admitting the dangers of the product allowed him to go on profiting from it. Many other scientists were pointing out the problems.

This is similar to the tobacco companies who were always saying that the evidence for smoking causing cancer was inconclusive and that the scientists who said otherwise had an agenda.

What amazes me, is the number of people that willingly swallow pseudoscience as settled fact and jump on the bandwagon, defending it to the bitter end.
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I quite agree.
 
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