The USA loves communism

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faethor

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I was listening to a program about China today. China is thought to become the largest economy within the next decade. They are intimately tied to the United States. They own the largest portion of our debt. They also supply a large part of our products. The USA is China's #1 nation of export. The USA makes up a bit over 50% of all chinese exports. That's huge!

So the question I pose is why do the capitalism and freedom loving people of the USA like to give the Commies so much of our money? Isn't this against what we stand for?
 
Perhaps we put too much weight into labels such as "communism". There are many in our government with close philosophical ties to communism, so it must not be all bad. We should all hold hands as we walk into the future.
 
redrumloa said:
We should all hold hands as we walk into the future.
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Red's starting to creep me out now. I should have sent him one of my tin foil hats to keep the gubmint mind rays at bay.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Red's starting to creep me out now. I should have sent him one of my tin foil hats to keep the gubmint mind rays at bay.
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What an odd thing to say :lol:
 
this relationship with china was not done by the american people. it was done by those damn Commie capitalist CEO's of large businesses that were willing to outsource so they could make more money and screw the middle class in the US




and, yes, i said this way on purpose
 
Be honest with yourself.

Look at the label on your new shoes, coat, sunglasses, computer desk, air conditioner, stove, refrigerator, car, or anything else of value purchased in the last year.

If it says anything other than the country you live in, you are the problem. You have just told "those damn Commie capitalist CEO's of large businesses that" you don't care if they export every last job left in your country. It's not their fault, it's yours for accepting and buying "Commie Products".
 
Fade said:
If it says anything other than the country you live in, you are the problem. You have just told "those damn Commie capitalist CEO's of large businesses that" you don't care if they export every last job left in your country. It's not their fault, it's yours for accepting and buying "Commie Products".
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What does one do when the marketplace fails to provide choice. You can't buy a PC or TV made in America. Even 'American' cars have parts made in other nations if not the whole car.

The USA should have a system where consumers can be easily informed at point of purchase of the % of the materials and manufacturing that come from our homeland. There was/is the Made in the USA label. However, that isn't a guarantee it's from the 50 states as various exceptions to the rule exist.

Obama said:
When folks lift the hoods on the cars of the future, I want them to see engines stamped “Made in America.” When new batteries to store solar power come off the line, I want to see “Made in America” printed on the side. And when new technologies are developed, I want them made right here in America.
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Good vision but indeed a long road ahead.

Certainly the consumer bares some responsibility for not buying American. Though corporation bares some responsibility too. Companies are here to serve us. When a company takes their profits from the USA and doesn't give us jobs in return in reality we are serving them. The 'free market' means companies have an excuse not to reinvest into the United States.

Remember the Boston Tea Party? The people were unhappy with taxes. Why? Because they weren't levied on the large international tea corporation. In turn this was anti-competitive to local products. This meant no USA raw materials, no USA labor, and the loss of USA capital. Of course they were pissed and destroyed their competitor's products.
 
Faethor asked;
"What does one do when the marketplace fails to provide choice. "
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If you really want to buy American, it's easy.

Made in USA.com

Still Made in USA.com

Buy American.com

Buy American Mart.com

All American Clothing.com

America's Virtual General Store.com

Made in USA Forever.com

Versa (Computer)Tables.com

Home Furniture Fla.com

Toys of USA.com



It's not even hard for folks from Minnesota.

Made in Minnesota

I understand that "some" products are built or assembled from international products or raw materials, but with a little effort, at least you can select products from countries you favor.


This one will give you Wal-Mart shoppers a jolt.
 
Of course, if you're looking to buy high end audio gear, then you really should buy Canadian: Buy Canadian

:mrgreen:
 
Fade said:
Faethor asked;
"What does one do when the marketplace fails to provide choice. "
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If you really want to buy American, it's easy.
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Not everyone has the web. More frequently consumers have smartphones (not one made in America BTW again lack of choice) and can use resources like this. However, why can't we be informed on the products we buy themselves? For example, foodstufs have ingredient lists on them so you know what you're getting. Clothing has materials lists on them so you know what you're getting. Would it be that difficult to have ___% USA stamped on a product? Or maybe even an icon that's reflective of the % of USA in a product?

Though do note your answer did not answer the question. It answered IF choice exists where to find the American producds. The question was what does one do when the marketplace fails to provide choice. You want a TV made in America? Too bad they don't exist. Now what.
 
Of course if more things were manufactured in the US, then only rich Americans could afford them and more Mexicans would be needed to be imported to keep costs down. Who'd want to pay $100+ for a GAP T-Shirt? And good luck exporting that.
 
We have the largest % and largest # of prisoners in the world. They work for about 10 cents an hour. There is ways to get labor accomplished with prices even lower than imported illegal immigrats.
 
faethor said:
We have the largest % and largest # of prisoners in the world. They work for about 10 cents an hour. There is ways to get labor accomplished with prices even lower than imported illegal immigrats.
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Do you really need more incentive to keep those numbers that high?
 
Glaucus said:
faethor said:
We have the largest % and largest # of prisoners in the world. They work for about 10 cents an hour. There is ways to get labor accomplished with prices even lower than imported illegal immigrats.
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Do you really need more incentive to keep those numbers that high?
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Right! We need more government programs and taxation to reform these poor misplaced souls. There are no bad people.
 
redrumloa said:
Right! We need more government programs and taxation to reform these poor misplaced souls. There are no bad people.
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You are not far off Red. Legalize drugs, tax the heck out of them. A good number of people could in turn be out on the streets.
 
I'd like to point out that I'm American and everything I make is MADE in America.

when people have supported ME they have supported a Made in America 'product'

and I HAVE added to this US economy and American culture.
 
faethor said:
redrumloa said:
Right! We need more government programs and taxation to reform these poor misplaced souls. There are no bad people.
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You are not far off Red. Legalize drugs, tax the heck out of them. A good number of people could in turn be out on the streets.
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I'm not sure what our leadership thinks of this. I am for whatever they think is proper.
 
redrumloa said:
I'm not sure what our leadership thinks of this. I am for whatever they think is proper.
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If we have halfway decent leadership they'd be against mindless drones. Well except for frontline military.
 
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