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http://cbs4.com/local/hollywood.police. ... 05668.html

Four Hollywood police officers may have crossed the line during a DUI traffic stop earlier this year when a police cruiser rear ended a stopped car and then the officers allegedly conspired to cover it up.

Little did they realize, their actions were caught on dash camera.

The incident happened last February when officers pulled over Alexandra Gabriela Torrensvilas, 23, in the 28 hundred block of Sheridan Street for suspicion of drunk driving. Officer Joel Francisco, 36, allegedly rear ended Torrensvilas car when he pulled in behind her. Ft. Lauderdale attorney Lawrence Meltzer said in addition to the DUI and improper lane change charges, Francisco and Officer Dewey Pressley, 42, tried to blame crash on Torrensvilas. He points to audio from their patrol car's dash cam in which the officers were heard discussing how to change the report.

"I don't want to make things up ever, because it's wrong, but if I need to bend it a little bit to protect a cop, I'm gonna,'' said one of the officers. ``We'll do a little Walt Disney to protect the cop because it wouldn't have mattered because she is drunk anyway.''

On the dash came tape, Pressley is heard to say that he had a way to shift the blame away from Francisco.

``I will do the narrative for you,'' one of the officers can be heard to say. ``I know how I am going to word this, the cat gets him off the hook.''

In the report on the accident Pressley wrote that a large cat, which had been sitting on Torrensvila's lap, distracted her and caused her to veer into the officer's lane and brake suddenly; hence there was no way to avoid the crash. Along with officers Pressley and Francisco, Sgt. Andrew Diaz and Community Service Officer Karim Thomas have also been placed on administrative leave during an internal affairs investigation into the incident.
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Aw. I was gonna post this in "two sides to every story" :)

I have seen this thing done often enough I am highly dubious of anything cops say. I remember years ago I had my car stereo ripped off so I reported it. A while later I got a call from the cops that they had nabbed the guy and that I should come and get my Graphic Eq that they had recovered when I show up for the court date. I told the cop that I didn't ever own a Graphic Eq but he was very adamant that I had one stolen (until I gave in and agreed with him) so that's what they gave me at the court house. Luckily the guy plead before I was asked to identify my equipment. I still have it somewhere but I never installed it.
 
@Fluffy

It burns me up. Most cops are honest as far as I can tell, there are just bad apples. I have a very close relative who was career law enforcement, ending up in senior rankings for the decade ++ before retiring. He did the right thing even when it made him unpopular. In his last assignment he mostly cleaned up a dirty department as sheriff in a semi-small town, until the old boy network in local politics railroaded him out.

Hollywood Florida police is known to have dirty officers, several officers were busted by the FBI in a drug operation a few years back. The crooked pigs need to be weeded out, but honest cops should not be demonized for the acts of the pigs.
 
redrumloa said:
The crooked pigs need to be weeded out, but honest cops should not be demonized for the acts of the pigs.
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The problem is that culturally honest cops are forced to cover for their dishonest cops.

Cops are there to protect and serve. If they misuse their position and take advantage of the public they should be, IMO, held to a higher standard then the citizens. Convictions, such as this fraud, the cop should not only lose their job but receive the maximum penality. Afterall if the logic is that harsh penalities prevent reoccurrance then penalities on cops should be the harshest.
 
faethor said:
redrumloa said:
The crooked pigs need to be weeded out, but honest cops should not be demonized for the acts of the pigs.
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The problem is that culturally honest cops are forced to cover for their dishonest cops.

Cops are there to protect and serve. If they misuse their position and take advantage of the public they should be, IMO, held to a higher standard then the citizens. Convictions, such as this fraud, the cop should not only lose their job but receive the maximum penality. Afterall if the logic is that harsh penalities prevent reoccurrance then penalities on cops should be the harshest.
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You expect me to disagree with your assessment? :hammer:
 
redrumloa said:
@Fluffy
I have a very close relative who was career law enforcement, ending up in senior rankings for the decade ++ before retiring. He did the right thing even when it made him unpopular.
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No doubt your relative knows how hard it is to go against a bad culture. I would bet that most people don't have the fortitude and end up going along to get along. That is human nature.
Hollywood Florida police is known to have dirty officers, several officers were busted by the FBI in a drug operation a few years back. The crooked pigs need to be weeded out, but honest cops should not be demonized for the acts of the pigs.
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Even good cops "act bad". It's a culture more than a personal choice. People get into an "us against the bad guys" mentality and end up justifying bad behaviour since if we're the good guys then nothing we do can really be bad since it's all for the "greater good" in the end. Even when there's outright blatant corruption it's dangerous to go against it. Once a department has gone rotten it's very hard to turn it around. Plus there are powerful and wealthy interests further up in society who depend on the police not being entirely clean.
 
redrumloa said:
faethor said:
redrumloa said:
The crooked pigs need to be weeded out, but honest cops should not be demonized for the acts of the pigs.
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The problem is that culturally honest cops are forced to cover for their dishonest cops.

Cops are there to protect and serve. If they misuse their position and take advantage of the public they should be, IMO, held to a higher standard then the citizens. Convictions, such as this fraud, the cop should not only lose their job but receive the maximum penality. Afterall if the logic is that harsh penalities prevent reoccurrance then penalities on cops should be the harshest.
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You expect me to disagree with your assessment? :hammer:
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I always expect some people to agree and some to disagree with my opinion. I didnt particulary choose a side for you Red. I'm not perfect at this but I usually let people speak for themselves before I judge what they say.

I'm a bit confused at what you're looking for there. Is it okay we post, posts where we might agree? Or should we only post, posts of disagreement?
 
faethor said:
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I'm a bit confused at what you're looking for there. Is it okay we post, posts where we might agree? Or should we only post, posts of disagreement?
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Not at all, it is just hard to tell in a forum post to know how a message is directed. My reply was lighthearted, thus the smiley. We agree often, like maybe 40% of the time. In real life we'd probably agree much more than that, just Whyzzat brings out whacky and/or political stuff.
 
redrumloa said:
Not at all, it is just hard to tell in a forum post to know how a message is directed. My reply was lighthearted, thus the smiley. We agree often, like maybe 40% of the time. In real life we'd probably agree much more than that, just Whyzzat brings out whacky and/or political stuff.
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Yes we do.

I think all boards bring out the whacky and controversial stuff. It's easier theater. Afterall there is no drama in happiness or satisfaction.
 
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