Three Eyed Fish caught at outflow from Nuclear Plant

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redrumloa said:
It may be a natural mutation like the one eyed shark found recently.
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The wonderful thing about such stuff is there is no difference between many natural and unnatural mutations. There are natural chemicals that are mutagenic and the whole world is radioactive to some degree. Millions of people will get cancer this year from perfectly natural sources and over the next decade millions more will get cancer from Fukushima, and luckily for TEPCO, there will be absolutely no way for any of those people to prove whether it was TEPCO or nature.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
The wonderful thing about such stuff is there is no difference between many natural and unnatural mutations. There are natural chemicals that are mutagenic and the whole world is radioactive to some degree. Millions of people will get cancer this year from perfectly natural sources and over the next decade millions more will get cancer from Fukushima, and luckily for TEPCO, there will be absolutely no way for any of those people to prove whether it was TEPCO or nature.
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Time, Distance, Shielding

Want more radiation, take a trip to the Rockies, the higher the altitude, the higher the natural back ground radiation dose. Then there is Thorium & Potassium found in the soil.

No way to scientifically prove, unless the dose is high enough to kill you within a couple weeks, then a direct link can be established
 
I sorta agree with metalman on this one. Once single case is only going to convince those already convinced. The right way to do this would be to examine large numbers of animals in the area and check them all for mutations (or disease) and compare to a control group. In other words, it's just not that easy. Having said that, I do find it funny that a creationist referenced some fundamental aspects of the evolution theory to support an argument. Metalman, I think the radiation from your monitor has gotten to you! There's hope for you yet!
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Glaucus said:
Having said that, I do find it funny that a creationist referenced some fundamental aspects of the evolution theory to support an argument. Metalman, I think the radiation from your monitor has gotten to you! There's hope for you yet!
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Non sequitur!
Creationist??? ROFL

Creationists are the 50% of Protestants who interpret the old testament literally.
 
metalman said:
Non sequitur!
Creationist??? ROFL

Creationists are the 50% of Protestants who interpret the old testament literally.
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So you're saying you don't believe mankind was created by a greater power? Well, then I stand corrected, didn't peg you as an atheist.
 
Glaucus said:
So you're saying you don't believe mankind was created by a greater power? Well, then I stand corrected, didn't peg you as an atheist.
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There certainly was a lot of power in the Big Bang

Not all Christian religions take the Bible as literal. Catholics consider the Book of Genesis allegorical. All Catholic schools teach evolution as part of their science curriculum.

Currently, I see a somewhat fierce debate raging between so-called “creationism” and evolutionism, presented as though they were mutually exclusive alternatives: those who believe in the Creator would not be able to conceive of evolution, and those who instead support evolution would have to exclude God. This antithesis is absurd because, on the one hand, there are so many scientific proofs in favor of evolution which enriches our knowledge of life and being as such. But on the other, the doctrine of evolution does not answer every query, especially the great philosophical question: where does everything come from? And how did everything start which ultimately led to man? I believe this is of the utmost importance.
— Pope Benedict XVI
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metalman said:
Not all Christian religions take the Bible as literal. Catholics consider the Book of Genesis allegorical. All Catholic schools teach evolution as part of their science curriculum.
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Yup, I was raised Catholic in the 70's and early 80's and they indeed teach evolution. I usually just keep quiet and laugh at people making claims that anyone who ever attended church believe in creationism as stated in the bible as literal interpretation. TV told them to think that, so they think that. In reality the ones who believe such as by far the minority and only a tiny percentage of the population.
 
redrumloa said:
That chart only talks about human beings, not evolution in general.
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Doesn't actually matter. If you sit there trying to make special pleading on those grounds then you seem to be missing the point. A human being is a kind of ape and apes are a kind of mammal and mammals are a kind of vertebrate and vertebrates are a kind of animal and animals are a kind of life. You can't carve off humans as somehow of a different stuff when we can see that they have the same chemistry, the same cellular machinery, and a DNA lineage which can be traced back through comparison to all other extant animals.

If you put humans aside as a special case then you suffer from vanity but not only that, you are just as much a creationist as the ones who demand special creation for ALL beings (or kinds, which you can see from above is a highly plastic word).
 
Religious Self-Identification of the U.S. Adult Population:
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Catholic 25.1%

non-Catholic Christian 50.9%
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Mainline Protestant 12.9%
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Baptist 15.8%
Methodist 5.0%
Lutheran 3.8%
Presbyterian 2.1% -
Episcopalian/Anglican 1.1%
United Church of Christ 0.3%

Christian Unspecified 7.2%
Evangelical Christian 3.5%
Protestant - Unspecified 2.3%
Pentecostal/Charismatic 3.5%
Pentecostal - Unspecified 2.4%
Assemblies of God 0.4%
Church of God 0.3%
Churches of Christ 0.8%

Jehovah's Witness 0.8%
Seventh-Day Adventist 0.4%
Mormon/Latter-Day Saints 1.4%

Total non-Christian religions 3.9%
Jewish 1.2%
Buddhist 0.5%
Muslim 0.6%
New Religious Movements & Others 1.2%
None/ No religion, total 15.0%
Agnostic+Atheist 1.6%
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catholic 25%+ none 15% == about 40%
 
metalman said:
Not all Christian religions take the Bible as literal. Catholics consider the Book of Genesis allegorical. All Catholic schools teach evolution as part of their science curriculum.
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Your statement is certainly true. Though all Christian schools teach creationism. In the case of Catholicism it is a case of moving the goal posts. They say that God made everything, not literally as Genesis 1 or Genesis 2 state, but did make everything. Evolution is a system established by God. Again this is simply another form of creationism with the goalposts of proof moved outside of the Bible for an explaination.
 
... and then we get to the old chestnut of: which parts do you take literally and who decides?
 
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