Turkish Coup Diverted

How ridiculous to think that think that a bunch of powerful people would plot to hurt "their own people" in order to gain more power. A silly conspiracy theory.

In more "coup" related news...

In Uranium rich Niger a low-level platoon commander overthrew the government during a visit by a US congressional delegation. While most of the world protested, the US announced that the president brought it upon himself.

Of course this has nothing to do with the US or energy resources... probably something to do with "freedom" or "lifestyle".
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
How ridiculous to think that think that a bunch of powerful people would plot to hurt "their own people" in order to gain more power. A silly conspiracy theory.
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Well, Turkey certainly has had a history of coups. But aside from that, I'm not sure what's going on. Was there really a coup plot, or is the government just purging the military of what it sees as obstacles? And in fact, this action could spark a coup even if there was never a plot. Of course my primary interest is how this affects Greece and I have no love for the Turkish military or the government.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
In more "coup" related news...

In Uranium rich Niger a low-level platoon commander overthrew the government during a visit by a US congressional delegation. While most of the world protested, the US announced that the president brought it upon himself.

Of course this has nothing to do with the US or energy resources... probably something to do with "freedom" or "lifestyle".
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Interesting, haven't heard about that. Did some googling and found this article that puts things in a different light:
Coup Leaders Say Army to Run Niger Until New Constitution, Elections Put in Place

"In an ideal situation, the military should stay in the barracks, civilians should rule," Howard University Political Science Professor Abdul Karim Bangura said. "But when a dictator is so powerful and controls all the means of violence and composure, what other alternative is there?"

Professor Bangura says Mr. Tandja committed many offenses, but one in particular. "This is also a man who suspended the constitution. The constitutional court ruled against his move and he decided to ignore the constitutional court and put the thing to a referendum in a very suspcious and very questionable way that we know was rigged," he stated.
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As for the difference in response from the US and other nations:
But there is support in Niger for the coup leaders.

Howard University Professor Bangura says outside powers are partly to blame for Niger's problems. "As long as France, which is the major power in Niger, was getting its uranium because it's heavily dependant on the uranium, and, of course China for its nuclear plants -- they are all dependent on uranium -- they were in no hurry to slap the wrist of Tandja," Bangura said.
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Now was the US involved in the coup? Maybe, they certainly don't seem upset about it. But if they were they'd be pissing of France and China it seems, and I'd imagine they'd do a better job of keeping their involvement a secret. I'm also not sure exactly what US diplomats could offer coup plotters, the US could easily provide logistical support without any diplomats in the country. But ya, there certainly is some suspicion, I'm just not willing to jump to conclusions.
 
Glaucus said:
Well, Turkey certainly has had a history of coups. But aside from that, I'm not sure what's going on. Was there really a coup plot, or is the government just purging the military of what it sees as obstacles?
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Both the US and Israel have been displeased with Turkey's civilian government. There has been a marked deterioration in relations and Turkey has been very critical of Israeli repression in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Glaucus said:
Well, Turkey certainly has had a history of coups. But aside from that, I'm not sure what's going on. Was there really a coup plot, or is the government just purging the military of what it sees as obstacles?
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Both the US and Israel have been displeased with Turkey's civilian government. There has been a marked deterioration in relations and Turkey has been very critical of Israeli repression in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel.
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Oh I'm fully aware of that. I'm also aware that the Turkish military would have close relations with the US through NATO contacts. But I'm also aware that a military coup would be a serious setback for Turkey's EU membership bid which the US has been championing for years. Like I said before, my biggest concern is how this will affect Greece directly so I have a vested interest, but I can't really say what that would be just yet. Can't say I've contemplated a Turkish coup scenario.

What I don't know is if it's the Turkish government or the Turkish army that set forth the policy of the continual air space violations over Greece. This has gone on for years despite the public scolding of Turkey by the US (although what they say to Turkey privately is anybody's guess). However, there's probably not much that's happening in Turkey now that will affect the fly overs.

Anyway, if the US was behind this coup attempt we should expect to see relations between Turkey and the US (and Israel) tank dramatically.
 
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